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« on: October 18, 2010, 01:40:38 PM » |
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i know what it is any body try it or eat by it. Is it safe for teenager.Is there side effects
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« on: October 18, 2010, 01:40:38 PM » |
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2010, 03:19:36 PM » |
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I eat lots of raw, no dairy or wheat products, no heating over 100 degrees Celsius. which means no bread, no milk, no junk food, no frying,... I feel fine, and am more in tune with what I eat, but you will have to try for yourself, and avoid being too radical if it doesn't work for you. during the transition period you may suffer symptoms like mild diarrhea, itches, nasal drip, in short your body throws out old garbage, you might feel mildly nauseous and go into a spontanuous fast. so there, in a few lines what I've been up to with my food. interestingly, I was unable to hold this diet when I wore my old vivo barefoot shoes - which i liked till i discovered they made me ill- I've done a now erased thread on that, it was too weird for some people.  good luck with it
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2010, 05:23:18 PM » |
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I started six years ago with the Seignalet regime, which is basically rooted in the same principles: mostly raw food or not cooked above 110 degrees celsius, no cereals of any kind but rice (ocasionally), no dairy products, no refined oils. Mainly meat, fish, eggs, vegetables and fruits. I lost 10 Kg in about three months (superfluous weight) and 3 or 4 additionaly during the following year. My mild psoriasis dissapeared, as well as some digestive problems I had (dispepsy, etc). I have notice several additional benefits to my healt. I have been eating meat only a few times a week, but now I am increasing protein consumption, after reading some works by Cordain et al. I am also trying to introduce more fats into my diet, and to reduce as much as possible carbohydrates, eliminating all beans and potatos. They have a high content on lectins, which induce a leaky gut. A high glycemic load may overload your pancreas as it has to produce permanent high levels of insuline, leading to the metabolic syndrome. Interesting links: http://www.thepaleodiet.com/http://www.staffanlindeberg.com/http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/http://www.seignalet.frhttp://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2010, 01:11:59 PM » |
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the wife and I have also been following the paleo diet for the past 2-3 mos. We have each lost 17-ish lbs. It's hard for her to stay away from breads, but I feel like crap when I do have them. I've noticed that I feel like I go through protein withdrawals in the morning when I don't get my protein as quickly as I ought, but I do feel better than before, and I'm eating more throughout the day than i was!
Google paleo recipes. there are some that are excellent. Even try substituting noodles with zucchini and squash "noodles" when you make spaghetti. You wont taste a difference. There is also a good recipe for paleo meatballs I found the other day and paleo pizza is great, too.
My wife was very obstinate and skeptical of the initial change...she's right on with it now. She's way more cautious of what she eats.
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2010, 01:11:59 PM » |
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2010, 05:49:46 PM » |
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I've been doing it for years. Its awesome...just don't be dogmatic. Personally I avoid gluten and "vegetable"oil/fried food like the plague but some occasional rice or corn tortillas wont get you kicked out of the club.
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2010, 08:11:25 PM » |
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Thanks for the answers its nearly impossible for me to do right now.I go to school and literally every thing they have there has wheats. Iam just trying to cut down on wheats right now.I have cereal for brekfast then none or very little thorugh rest of the day Its weird though becuase awhile ago i heard this thing that grilled meat is bad becuase it releases some toxins that can cuase cancer and the person telling me said to not grill meats or just dont eat meat at all.  
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2010, 07:17:20 PM » |
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One of the principles by Seignalet is not cooking above 110 degrees Celsius to avoid formation of maillard molecules which promote cáncer.
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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2010, 06:44:59 AM » |
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I tend to be somewhat sceptical towards any kind of extreme diets, and justification for this one simply does not sound convincing. True, paleolitic people may have been taller and in some aspect healthier than neolitics, but there is no evidence that it is a dietary effect as opposed to e.g. spreading of infectious diseases (from diarrhoea to malaria) as a consequence of people settling down and living in larger groups. Quite an interesting discussion is here (btw sounds otherwise as a somewhat vegan-critical site): http://www.beyondveg.com/cat/paleodiet/index.shtml Especially this: http://www.beyondveg.com/nicholson-w/angel-1984/angel-1984-1a.shtmlIn fact, I tend to prefer first-hand evidence of quite a few family members who stayed happy, active and (relatively) healthy until, at least, their mid-eighties or later (granddad died this spring at the age of 99). All of them shared, among other things, the experience of crisis/ wartime poverty in the 30ies and 40ies, which meant an extended period of living on a diet with a less than usual share of meat, and more than usual share of potatoes, cabbage and beans...
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2010, 08:41:52 AM » |
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I understand and shared your scepticism, but when statistically important numbers of patients start getting better/getting cured by this type of diet, that changed the matter for me altogether. Check the aforementionned Seignalet.com This now deceased MD was a regular researcher at Montpellier university, his explanations are sound, his successes authentic. I know of someone that cured his Multiple Sclerosis by eating raw, he got blind again if he stopped following his diet. Mind you, not everyone manages to maintain such a strict regime, and should abstain if too harsh. take care
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2010, 09:35:24 AM » |
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Without going into an argument: if it works for you and others, fine. No need to ask whether it works because you started a specific dietary regime, or because you stopped eating something specific what did not work for you. I am only somewhat worried when someone makes a dietary habit (of any kind) into a surrogate religion - be it vegan or palaeo. This page is quite good, in my opinion: http://www.beyondveg.com/cat/psych/index.shtmlTo quote from there: ...your status as a human being is more important than dietary dogma (i.e., what your lunch is)...I am getting especially suspicious when people are trying to develop ideologically acceptable substittes of common traditional foods. A pumpkin deserves to be eaten as a pumpkin, not as a noodle substitute, and tofu as tofu, not as a meat substitute. If one cannot live without real noodles (or real sausage), one should accept it and eat noodles or sausage (in reasonable amounts) without feeling guilty.
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