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« on: April 10, 2012, 12:09:44 PM »

Hi there,

just wondering if anyone here has any experience with the Flows when hiking in rain?

I was planning on walking the West Highland Way (about 160km).
I walked it last year (in standard hiking boots) and had 5 (out of 6 days) rain (typical Scotland).

While I don't mind my KSOs getting wet (when I'm running for an hour or so), I don't think that walking 6-8h in wet Fivefingers would be ideal for my feet/skin -> blisters Cheesy

That's why I thought I would get the Flows (as they are supposed to be waterproof) & some gaiters.

But does anybody have any experience with them? Would they actually stay dry in constant rain?

Thanks for any help!
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2012, 12:34:36 PM »

As far as I'm aware (I've not got any Flows), although the panels are waterproof (being neoprene), the seams are not. Your feet may be wet and/or very sweaty.
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2012, 12:37:19 PM »

Unfortunately the flows are not waterproof. They soak up water like a sponge actually. One thing they are good at is warming up the water that makes it in, so your feet don't freeze instantly. If you are hiking for 6-8 hours you can probably get away with them in the rain, though after a long wet run I found that it started to rub against my instep, and it got fairly raw by the end of it.

If you're going to get wet, there are currently no VFFs that will keep your feet dry, though they are working on it. There is a make of Merrell gloves that use goretex, so that may be a better option. I'm going for a pair of Vivobarefoot off road hi's which are apparently waterproof, and will post an update on them once they are in.
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2012, 01:00:47 PM »

Okay, thank you two!

Think I'll just stick to my hiking boots then Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2012, 01:53:56 PM »

If you are able to find a pair of Bormios, then you can waterproof them using Aquaseal. I used it on mine and can stand in a puddle  without getting wet. They would probably be perfect for a hike just not for running.
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2012, 04:35:42 PM »

If you are able to find a pair of Bormios...
The only problem then would be the price. If you were to try to get them in the UK, you're not seeing much change out of 200. The Merrell Toughglove is about half that.
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2012, 06:35:48 PM »

I'm pretty sure the toughgloves with an aquaseal treatment would work nicely. A friend of mine has some vivobarefoot neo trails, and she loves them for off road. They are decent at keeping water out, and have very good grip for slick terrain.
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2012, 07:07:38 PM »

Okay, thank you two!

Think I'll just stick to my hiking boots then Cheesy


As you have done it before you have some experience of the wonderful (ahem) Scottish weather - I cant imagine tackling the WHW without Goretex lined boots or walking shoes.......theres standing in a puddle and theres the cold driving, horizontal rain that is frequent in the West of Scotland..and thats just the summer  Sad

This is a good read about walks in Gods Country..  http://www.scottishwalks.com/   free too !!
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2012, 08:39:58 PM »

Flows aren't even close to being waterproof and your feet will look like prunes in a short time. I do have 2 pair of Vivo Barefoot Aquaeos and they are indeed completely waterproof but run $195.00 American. For the thinness they are surprisingly warm as well.
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2012, 03:10:40 PM »

As you have done it before you have some experience of the wonderful (ahem) Scottish weather - I cant imagine tackling the WHW without Goretex lined boots or walking shoes.......theres standing in a puddle and theres the cold driving, horizontal rain that is frequent in the West of Scotland..and thats just the summer  Sad
And when it's not raining, out come the midges.

The end of last April I was in the West Highlands: rain and stinging hail one moment, brilliant sun the next. I was very glad of my waterproof snow boots.
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2012, 04:16:46 AM »

Thanks for all the feedback Smiley

The Borimo are a bit too pricey (and I don't really like the look of them tbh).

Yeah, last time I walked it, I had 20C on the first day (and got sunburned hehe), and then rain for the rest of the trip and some snow after Bridge of Orchy. Some of the paths literally turned into small streams (ankle deep water for a few km's).

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