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« on: January 26, 2011, 07:49:21 PM »

Fila Skeletoes (expected release on Feb 1st, 2011)

A new blog entry in BirthdayShoes about Skeletoes here: http://birthdayshoes.com/fila-skeletoes-toe-shoes-exclusive-sneak-peak

I'd like to remark that there's an appreciable new feature that differentiates the design of these Fila Skeletoes from the regular FiveFingers mold:
The shape in which the Skeletoes sole has been molded can offer a clear advantage to regular barefoot runners/walkers or while advancing in their barefoot transition:
The big toe pocket is much more separated from the rest of the toes, closer to the shape of a foot perfectly adapted to walk/run barefoot.
Many of you have probably noticed such difference, for those willing to verify my claim I'd suggest to watch some of the initial scenes (most explicit from 1:48 to 2:48) of one of the two videos uploaded in YouTube of the Navi Mumbai Barefoot Half Marathon race organized by the Barefoot Runners of India Foundation:

From 2:16 to 2:48
Navi Mumbai Barefoot Half Marathon


From 1:48 to 2:05
Navi Mumbai Barefoot Half-Marathon


Most runners are still kids, and yet most of them if not all (both kids and adults) have their big toes clearly dealigned from the rest in an open angle, more than in the shape given in this new Fila model.
I believe wearing shoes that holds your toes in the position that your toes had developed in the case you didn't wear shoes may actually help redress your toes to a more natural position at an early stage of mild toe deformities and still flexible joints. Furthermore, a certain level of stiffness in the sole at that point by reinforcing the sole rubber between the first and second digit could actually promote the relocation of the big toe to its "original" position in a similar way an orthopedic device corrects the shape of your body.
I encourage Vibram to develop new lasts and sole molds with modified shapes to fit the natural barefoot position of the toes to help recover the original function of your feet during your transition. This feature would also be of value among regular barefoot walkers/runners who have retain the toes misalignments caused by a previous long period of wearing shoes.
I'm uploading a pair of orthopedic devices I've been wearing every night for about a month (bunion night splints). Unfortunately, I can't wear any similar device in any of my FiveFingers.
Wouldn't be a nice addition if my shoes also helped my big toes to become realigned during the day?
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 10:46:22 PM »

I tried a pair of these on at our local Dick's sporting goods this past weekend....  They are very stiff, unflexable, and cramped.  Even in your hand they feel like a stiff version of a chuck taylor and felt worse on my feet.  Unlike the VFF's your toes and feet can't splay and move.  My toes also felt like they were in an unatural position.  There was effort on their part, but a failure in my opinion. 
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2011, 05:08:18 PM »

I saw these at the store today. Only in larger men's sizes and kid's sizes so I didn't try them on but I agree, they felt very stiff. I can't imagine them being very comfortable. And I hate that "easy in" toe design. I don't want my two smallest toes crammed in together like they don't matter! Lol. :-P 
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2011, 07:40:10 PM »

I ordered a pair of these to try and I'm not sure how to explain it.  The toes feel great and I'm not against the idea of having the two smallest toes together because my smallest does doesn't seem to do anything other than get in the way.  The problem is it feels like the toes work are are flexible and then it feels like there is a plate under the rest of the foot that is really uncomfortable. 
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2011, 07:47:50 PM »

  The toes feel great and I'm not against the idea of having the two smallest toes together because my smallest does doesn't seem to do anything other than get in the way.  

You need to work them and train them (your feet and toes).  I can pick up a single piece of dog kibble with either of my pinky toes.  It's all about working them and using them and eventually you can start controlling them.  Then you will find the Skeletoes just revolting.... Grin
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2011, 01:32:25 PM »

Good advice, I had a chance to talk to a basketball trainer once who trains a good amount of NBA players and he has them do an exercise where they have to pick up marbles with their toes out of a box to strengthen their feet...maybe I should start.
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2011, 05:02:56 PM »

I hate that "easy in" toe design. I don't want my two smallest toes crammed in together like they don't matter! Lol. :-P  

I tried on and bought a pair of these, only to return them later due to their rigidity.  I actually really liked the combined toe pocket for number 4 and the pinky toe.  My pinky toes are relatively short and tend to very tightly hug their bigger brother number 4.  The Skeletoes allowed them to continue to do so and I was able to wear them with zero discomfort, the shoes themselves were just too stiff and thick.  I have been wearing KSOs, and occasionally I notice pinky toe pain because my pinky toes are so desperately trying to glue themselves to the fourth toe.  I have not even been running in them, just knocking around the house.  I am pushing through the pain, and hoping to get the shoes broke in a little more.  If Fila would have had a more Vibram like sole, I would have kept them with the combined toe pocket being the deciding factor.
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 03:34:43 AM »

Yea, I went to JcPennys or Sears and they had them. I picked them up and put them directly down and walked away. Those are horrid. End of story.
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2011, 08:47:46 PM »

I tried a pair of these on this weekend. I actually had a harder time getting them on than my KSO's because my two small toes did NOT want to get in a pocket together.  it was like they were yelling "but, Mommy!  We don't WANNA share a room again!"  Once I did get them on, it took me a few minutes to figure out what was bothering me. It was the extra layer of padding in the heel.  It felt so weird and wrong in toe shoes.  I don't think I'll be buying any skeletoes any time soon.
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2011, 12:45:07 PM »

Saw them at dicks.. Not impressed. Don't like most attempts at knock offs. Cheap price I like. Cheap quality I don't like.
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2011, 12:06:03 AM »

I got the skeletoes when they came out, and wore them for months. At first I thought they were cool, and they do really help with the barefoot experience. I assumed the stiff sole would soften and wear in with wear... nope. Never happened. They are still as stiff today as they were the day I got them. Today my KSOs came in the mail (my first VFFs!) and I wore them most of the day. So comfy in comparison! Then I put the skeletoes back on to do some dirty yardwork and BLECH. Hard as a rock, my pinky toe was already screaming, and they felt just horrible. They're the boots of the toe-shoe world imho. They get the job done, but not as well and are big, clunky, and uncomfortable for long wear.
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2011, 10:54:47 AM »

I do not believe the Skeletoes were ever intended to be minimalist shoes.  They have somewhat of a heel so that most average shod people can wear them without discomfort.  They also have a thicker sole on them.  I think they are trying to provide a toe shoe for the everyday folks that do not want to transition slowly like they would need to into VFFs.  I doubt you'll see a rash of Skeletoe injuries anytime soon, since they are very "normal" shoe-like, just with 4 toe pockets.
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2011, 01:34:08 PM »

My barefoot shoe journey started with the Filas.  Indeed the sole is much stiffer than VFF but there is some flex.

For me, I started to get a nasty blister on each heel due to the way the stitching was.  Returned mine and went to VFF.

I gave them a try because Fila was having a sale on their website.  Got a pair for $38.

Not a bad shoe, just not for me.
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2011, 06:07:44 PM »

I saw these at the store today. Only in larger men's sizes and kid's sizes so I didn't try them on but I agree, they felt very stiff. I can't imagine them being very comfortable. And I hate that "easy in" toe design. I don't want my two smallest toes crammed in together like they don't matter! Lol. :-P 
That was my first thought when I saw these. Thanks to VFFs and barefooting, my fifth toe doesn't lie against the fourth anywhere near as much as it used to.
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2011, 12:46:21 PM »

I also started with Fila Skele-toes. I bought them because of the price difference. They looked pretty much the same but were only $50. I actually thought they were amazing I was quite blown away by how comfortable they were. My wife got a pair of VFFs and kept telling me how much better they felt. She convinced me to try on a pair and I have never gone back.

The Skele-toes got me into this whole barefoot shoe idea so I guess I owe it to them. I would likely never have even bothered to try on a $100 shoe so I would never have known how great VFFs are. They are pretty much in between a regular shoe and VFFs so it may be a nice alternative for some people. I personally don't want to wear them again but I won't say they are a bad shoe just not nearly as good as VFFs.
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