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« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2011, 07:29:29 PM »

Hey mountain thanks for getting in on the discussion here. 

I like the product and I can use as a dress shoe but I have gotten to the point that I am not afraid to wear my Vibram FiveFIngers anywhere I go.  I go to political fundraisers, the opera, theater, and work in Vibrams.  So I would be hard pressed to throw down much over $200 on that shoe.  Really anything over $170 starts to get above my comfort level and they would have to have a really important reason for needing them. 

If you don't reach your fundraising goal what do you plan on doing to go further with getting the shoes to market? 

Hey BearFooted, thanks for being so active in the discussions here =)

1. They are going to retail at $300. There's no help-us-get-started markup, and it's probably cheaper to pre-order now than to wait for the first production run. We have a "3 pairs for the price of 2" promo that will save you $100 per pair, and even at $300, we're comping shipping and sales tax, which I can't guarantee we'll do later on.

2. I did look at other countries, and we decided to produce in the US for the assurance that these shoes were made under our stricter environmental and labor standards. I'm sure there are good factories overseas as Vivo has shown, but until we can afford to have someone over there watching over things, I wouldn't feel comfortable.

3. The cost difference is about twofold. However, that does not include freight, customs, large minimum order quantities (I'm talking 200 pairs vs 20,000 pairs) and the costs associated with financing and warehousing it, controlling quality, revisions and returns overseas, mistranslations/ miscommunications, etc. Made in China isn't quite the advantage it used to be, at least for footwear.

4. I totally understand. I would be sad too if you got a pair that just sat in a closet for the rest of its life! If I didn't have to wear dress shoes I wouldn't buy them, even if they were as awesome as the Primal Professional. I'd go in my huaraches everywhere if I could. You're really lucky =P

5. However, if you do see yourself rocking these, take advantage of our "3 for the price of 2" promo and get a pair for $200. Grab your brother and your dad, your workout buddies, your co-workers, your college friends, or even some of the nice folks on this forum =)

6. Due to positive reception, we're planning to move ahead even if we don't reach the $50K by Dec 11. Still, every dollar raised right now is a dollar we won't have to borrow from friends and family later, so we're still encouraging pre-orders and contributions.

Let me know if you have any more questions!
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« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2011, 08:22:42 PM »

I like to write reviews for shoes here on Birthdayshoes.com  I am pretty sure Justin is getting a sample pair of yours shoes in but the size is to small for either of us to wear.  Once you go to production and get one made in my size I would love to test the shoe.  Any idea how long before you plan on starting production?  
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« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2011, 10:38:28 PM »

I like to write reviews for shoes here on Birthdayshoes.com  I am pretty sure Justin is getting a sample pair of yours shoes in but the size is to small for either of us to wear.  Once you go to production and get one made in my size I would love to test the shoe.  Any idea how long before you plan on starting production?  

The size 38 sample I sent to Justin got lost in the mail. Don't ever use USPS's Parcel Post! We're estimating delivery of our first production run around March 2012. Shoemaking is still a very labor-intensive, largely handmade process...something like 120 hand operations just to make one shoe.
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« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2011, 06:08:02 AM »

We can totally build a cowboy boot on top of these outsoles. The most expensive part of our startup costs are the molds for the outsoles. Once we're up and running, changing the upper thereafter is relatively cheap. We've already developed a plain-toe model to meet military dress regulations. The next one we're planning is a brown Cordovan wing-tip.

Military Dress regulations? I don't suppose you have a shoe in the planning process that'd meet the female military dress regulations? I'd totally love a black pump that was minamilistic and could meet miltiary regs. It might actually make me choose to wear my blues more often.
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