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« on: August 18, 2010, 11:19:50 PM »

Hi, I'm looking to purchase 2 different pairs of VFFs.

I'm a competitive HS XC runner, and I've been running barefoot on a local golf course for some time now.  I'd like to try a pair of VFFs for more expansive running than just the golf course.

I'm thinking of waiting for the Bikila LS to come out as a solely running pair.

However, I'm also an avid canoe tripper, and I do a lot of camping involving portaging canoes and being in and out of the water.

Here is my question: I want something good for hiking, playing around, climbing on rocks.  Something good for running around and playing sports but grippy enough to climb around rocks in, and something good for around the water.

Right now I have it narrowed down to the Trek Sport and the new Komodo.

Any thoughts or suggestions?  Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2010, 11:26:05 PM »

Kangaroo Treks and original KSO. Bikilas come unglued too much and not as proven as KSO.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2010, 11:27:24 PM »

Well the Bikila LS would be a strictly running shoe, whereas the second pair would be for hiking, playing around, climbing on rocks, etc.

I feel like the Trek Sport seems to fit the criteria, but the Komodo sounds interesting as well.
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2010, 11:40:42 PM »

Treks for hiking and trail running. Kso for everything else.

I wouldn't reccomend the bikila, unless it's for street running (long distances). I don't care for the QC control issues of VFF right now, espeically the bikila. Personally, I would try the other minimalist options like racing flats, soft star's run-a-moc, or huaraches.
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2010, 11:45:29 PM »

Well now I'm thinking I'll just stick to training in my Sauconys and adding some true barefoot running to my training regimen, since the Bikilas don't exactly sound up to snuff.

So if I'm going for one pair to fit the rest of my criteria would you say KSO or Trek?  I still like something about the Trek Sport, it seems to strike a nice middle ground between the KSO and Trek.  And the Komodo still looks intriguing.

I just wanna say thanks for the help though, I'm sorry if I'm being a pain of sorts, I just want to really hash through my options before I buy something like this.
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2010, 01:07:35 AM »

One pair: prob KSO.

Two pairs: possibly one of the traditional ones (possibly Sprint given your interest in canoeing, of course, FLOW if you tend to play in cold water...)
and Sport Trek (or Kangaroo trek)

I'd be wanting to maximize on the options and getting two pairs that serve different niche.
Classic/Sprint/KSO have thinner soles (KSO slightly thicker) and give much better "barefoot feel".  Sprint/Classic with open top make them better for the summer/traveling (again, depending on where you live.  Summer can mean over 100+)

Trek-style soles are much sturdier and prob better for trail running/hiking/backpacking...etc.  The pair of Sport Trek I "played with" seem more structured and less flexible than the 3 older styles (C/S/K).   Personally I like the Kangaroo Trek than the sport trek. KT looks more formal so blend in better when I don't want to stand out too much.

After a month of wearing mostly Trek (+ some KSO), I was surprised by how much more "barefoot" it feels when I put on my (thin-soled) classic.    Classics are awesome too.
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2010, 01:13:30 AM »

Well now I'm thinking I'll just stick to training in my Sauconys and adding some true barefoot running to my training regimen, since the Bikilas don't exactly sound up to snuff.

So if I'm going for one pair to fit the rest of my criteria would you say KSO or Trek?  I still like something about the Trek Sport, it seems to strike a nice middle ground between the KSO and Trek.  And the Komodo still looks intriguing.

I just wanna say thanks for the help though, I'm sorry if I'm being a pain of sorts, I just want to really hash through my options before I buy something like this.

No problem. Trek sports and treks differ only in the upper matieral, one being synthetic and the other kangaroo leather The treks sport also have the heel padding of the bikila and seem to run small, compared to ksos. The bottoms are the same tread and have a total padding of about 9mm.

Komodos seem to be a gimmic to me. It seems like the new 2011 line up is more shoe-like than BF. Definately keep up with your barefoot running and maybe get some KSos, sprints, or classics. Treks are a good light trail running option, but New Balance and merrell are also doing minimalist lines and have a better track record for quality control.

I've have my classics and Ksos over a year, but the new stuff tends to be more subpar than stuff made over a year ago. Just read through the forum and judge for yourself. VFfs are definately cool, but it gets annoying to have to wait for replacements because of defects and lack of stock.
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