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« on: May 22, 2011, 01:44:04 AM »

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So... I'm a formerly-morbidly-obese woman, now only a tidbit overweight (by about 20 lbs).

I DESPERATELY want to keep up the weight loss, and to do that, I NEED to be active!

One of the things that, in my experience, keeps the weight off (or helps it fall off to begin with) is WALKING.

Another thing is RUNNING!!

Also, in the past, I would walk for a bit (like say 2-4 miles) and get random blisters on my toes, ball of foot, or even outside edge of foot just from walking!  My socks weren't bunched up, there were no sneaky rocks in my shoes, just hot spots + blisters for no darn reason!

Due to these hotspots & blisters, it makes me not want to stay active.  The crap hurts!

It has come to my attention that maybe VFF's are the answer.  My question is, for someone who is mainly interested (at least to start with) in power-walking/speed-walking/long-distance-walking...which VFF's would be right for me to start with?

I am interested in starting up the 5K Your Way or Couch to 5K plan (both similar, kinda) eventually, if that makes any difference.

The majority of my walking would be done either on a pavement track at my workplace, or on a treadmill.

HELP!  I think there are a few places in town that I can visit tomorrow, who sell VFF's... maybe they can help me get sized and fitted?
I live in Dallas.  Any fellow VFF'ers out here???
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2011, 05:07:18 AM »

It's great you're going to a store to get them fitted, then you can get a fit right for you, that will hopefully also help you avoid blisters.  

I think different people on this forum have found different preferences, but I do enjoy my KSOs as a good walking/running shoe. Others run in Classics and Sprints. People report that newer models like the Bikila (2010 model), Treksport and Komodo (Just out this Spring) have less groundfeel but better grip on pavement due to the tread on the soles. (The Treks are more specialised for offroad, the Flows are the most expensive but they're for cold weather/Winter)

Some models have a little strap that sits behind the heel, other models don't and have more of a regular shoe back. I have my eye on trying some Komodos next, but we'll see!  Some people (like me) wear thin toe socks while wearing them (The big plus is you won't need to wash your VFFs so often) and some prefer wearing them without socks. If you prefer socks it's important to get VFFs sized while wearing socks, otherwise they'll be too tight.

Reviews of the main types here - http://birthdayshoes.com/guides/

One thing to bear in mind first is to take it carefully as it takes some months to get your foot muscles stronger and used to bending/flexing in VFFs. Do some walking in them to start with, but not all your walking (considering that you want to keep as active as possible at the moment) If your feet ache a lot after an hour or two, give them a break for the rest of the day.  Also read the advice on the main part of this website on how to walk in VFFs without coming down hard on your heel. The heel does see some weight when you walk in VFFs, but the midfoot sees more. It's important to shorten your stride and not to thud it down, or you may get foot/heel pain.  

Running in VFFs is different again - it's important to see the difference so check the advice on running.

Again, all Birthdayshoes advice can be found here - http://birthdayshoes.com/guides/

My story: I got some Vivo Barefoots in March last year, and some VFFs in May. I wore my Vivos everywhere, to work and outside, but I wasn't really doing much exercise the first month, so though my feet (and achilles) ached every day, I wasn't putting them under too much strain. The second month I started running short distances in my Vivos - just 50 = 100 yards at a time....I hadn't jogged anywhere since school...12 years....and I'd never ran before with a mid-to-forefoot ground strike.....man this killed my calf muscles.....!!

By the time I put my VFFs on in May I'd already had 8 weeks in flexible shoes so found I could go out for 1, 2 mile walks without too much aching in my foot, and short 5-10 minute runs. I didn't push things any further than this as was worried about giving myself "Top of Foot Pain." I then had a break from running til this Spring, but did quite a bit of walking in my VFFs instead. Now I'm running again...trying to do a Couch to 5K again, but customised it a bit. Wink

If you get pain, anywhere, at any time using your VFFs it's worth coming back to this forum and asking about it first, rather than trying to run through it the next day. I know it can suck to be patient and cautious, but you'll get a LOT more fun out of your shoes long term!  

I'd never enjoyed running before VFFs - they have made me want to get fitter, and I have. And do you know I haven't had a single blister since wearing Vivos and VFFs? Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2011, 05:19:04 AM »

i think you've found all your answers in the previous post but i wanted to say a massive well done on the weight loss and it's fantastic you are going to get active also.

keep us posted on how you get on and post a pic when you get your new VFFs  Cheesy


look forward to hearing all about it Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2011, 08:47:04 AM »

Sablewings definitely covered it in detail.  Great advice!  BTW, do a forums search for "Texan Roll Call".  There are quite a few here on the forums.

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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2011, 01:18:46 PM »

Thanks everybody!!!

The nearest store, Tyler's Highland Park, said they have an employee who is an expert on VFF's and he'll be in at 1pm so come by then.

YAYYYY!!!

Thanks everyone for your input; it is MUCH appreciated!!!  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2011, 09:38:24 PM »

I got some VFF Bikilas to start out with -- the blue ones  Smiley

I wore them out of the store, and went to the grocery store in them.
Then I got home, changed into my workout gear, and went for a nice little 30-minute walk in them -- all sidewalk (concrete) walking.
During the 30-minute walk, I started to feel a hotspot in my right heel -- where the achilles tendon is.
By the time I was finished, there had formed a small blister there.

Is this a result of buying the wrong model, wrong size shoe...or maybe just needing to modify my gait?
I had already noticed a definite change to a midfoot strike as opposed to my usual heel-striking.

Or... is this rubbing just something that is a part of the "breaking in" of the new VFF's and will stop after I've worn them a bit more?

I read somewhere to use Body Glide to decrease the friction.  I will try that, but I am not sure if it will help with an already-formed blister.  Hmm we will see.
Maybe I should have started with Classics.  Cry  Too late now!!
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2011, 10:15:43 PM »

I would just reiterate the need to take it slow.  I don't do much exercise walking, but I imagine it's a great deal more involved than just casual walking about.  As a result, if you go out power walking in VFFs and do a lot (I would consider 30 minutes a lot) right away, you could risk some injury.  Like with runners, I would suggest you wear the VFFs whenever you can (ie. on errands, etc) and go barefoot as much as possible at home.  Give yourself a few weeks to acclimate and your feet to strengthen, especially if you're coming from walking shoes.  After a little while, then you should be fine to start using VFFs for more strenuous workouts.  It's fun to jump right in them and go, but that leads to issues down the road.  Just emphasizing that. 

Congrats on the weight loss and best of luck in the future.  Have fun with the VFFs.
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 09:09:05 AM »

Yeah, after wearing them yesterday I definitely felt the inclination to be barefoot more often... that and browsing facebook photos on the Barefoot Runners Society page haha... Thanks SO much for your input! I appreciate it. Smiley

Everyone here is so helpful... and all this time I thought fitnessy minded people would be judgy to me for being Ms. Pudgy. Hahaha. 
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2011, 11:40:12 AM »

i too had  a blister from my bikilas when i first had them but i used bodyglide and i've worn them quite a bit now so they seem to have broken in a bit Smiley mo more blisters.

i take my hat off to anyone that makes an effort to achieve their goals Grin
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2011, 01:21:29 AM »

I've had my Bikilas for two weeks now, and I had a blister in the same spot, right along the top of the shoe on my achilles tendon. It was weird though, I didn't get it until a week after I got them. An hour after a run I had to go out to the store to get something. I threw on the Bikilas again, and within a couple hundred feet I went from no hotspot to a small blister. I readjusted how the heel cup sat on my foot, and gingerly carried on. I haven't had the problem since, and have gone on two longer runs w/o socks in them, no issues. It's likely just from how the shoe happened to be sitting at the time.

Congratulations on your weight loss! Shedding a lot of weight is no easy feat, so way to go! The more you wear these things, you'll feel like you want to run everywhere in them. In the airport, through the grocery store, or anywhere there is open space. Just take it easy and slowly build those feet up, and you'll love the feedback your body will give you.

Enjoy!
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