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« on: March 15, 2010, 08:16:01 PM »

It's probably easier to repair than return for exchange or warranty support.

The synthetic fabric is pulling away from the rubber sole at the heal in a couple of spots after a month.

When I feel around the edge of the footbed inside, where it attaches to the sides of the sole, I can feel bubbles or air pockets, where I guess the orignal gluing left air pockets durring assembly - I think those are now opening up due to stress.

The fabric sides which the sole is glued too seems to be some kind of leather-like plastic material.

ShoeGoo says it should not be used on 'polyethylene or polypropylene plastic'.... do we know what kind of plastic fabric the shoe is made of?

I'm wondering what glue I shoud use to reattach the rubber sole and 'leather'?

Has anyone had long term success with Shoe Goo in this situation?



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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2010, 03:27:44 PM »

I just called and talked to Cathy at Vibram and told her I had the traditional KSO (not Trek) and that the cloth material was seperating from the rubber heal and asked her what they recomended. She said that some people had used Gorilla Glue.

I will give it a try as both pair of KSO one being the Trek have the rubber pealing away from the other material. I will not make any promas to update if it works but I'm sure if it doesn't I will be back to let everyone know.

As for Shoe Goo, I used that stuff when I was a kid and not as well off as a I am now. Back then if the sole came off you had better find a way to get it on or you would just have to walk around with it flopp'en to and fro. I found that the Shoe Goo was only better than duct tape in that it was not grey.
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2010, 03:31:06 PM »

I just called and talked to Cathy at Vibram and told her I had the traditional KSO (not Trek) and that the cloth material was seperating from the rubber heal and asked her what they recomended. She said that some people had used Gorilla Glue.

I will give it a try as both pair of KSO one being the Trek have the rubber pealing away from the other material. I will not make any promas to update if it works but I'm sure if it doesn't I will be back to let everyone know.

As for Shoe Goo, I used that stuff when I was a kid and not as well off as a I am now. Back then if the sole came off you had better find a way to get it on or you would just have to walk around with it flopp'en to and fro. I found that the Shoe Goo was only better than duct tape in that it was not grey.

I woudln't reccomend gorilla glue. It's yellow when it dries and expands into a hard glob, i.e. not flexible. I would think you would want something more flexible when it dries like a rubber cement compund.
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2010, 03:53:46 PM »

I love gorilla glue, but I agree with Hawkeye. It's not something that will be flexible when cured. Rubber Cement does sound like a good alternative.
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2010, 11:00:21 PM »

Anyone have luck with Shoe Goo? I have a friend whose Performa's have pinky pod issues. They need to be glued back on. Leather to rubber adhesion???
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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2010, 01:57:31 PM »

This site might be useful - it tells you what glue to use to adhere different kinds of substances together:

http://www.thistothat.com/
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2010, 11:49:40 AM »

Look for a glue  ( ebay) that they use to fix wetsuits and fitting latex seals to drysuits . Sometimes its a  2 part glue, it sticks very well to rubber. Buff the rubber parts with sandpaper if possible. The  glue has  to be applied thinly on both parts and then pressed together after about 5 minutes.
Keep away from regular "contact glue" , it just ain`t good enough.

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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2010, 11:14:29 PM »

Anyone try spray adhesive such as this? found it using that site you linked to Rana

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-Super-77/Super77/
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2010, 03:45:52 AM »

I called Vibram USA for more answers.
They transferred me to someone who said good results have been reported by customers who used Shoe Goo to repair these shoes.

So, I used an emery board to rough up the surfaces in the gaps, and blew it out.

I put blobs of the glue on a toothpick and poked it into the gaps between the rubber sole and the synthetic 'leather' fabric.  Toothpicks make it easy to poke it way back into the voids left in manufacturing.

In some spots I used clothes pins to hold the glued material together, in others I just let the glue fill the void and did not compress... thinking, if this is the way the materials want to sit then it would be less stressful long term to let the glue match the 'mold' its been squished into.

KSOs have held together fine, with no pulling apart past few weeks.
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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2010, 06:47:30 AM »

I used Pattex moment glue. Works great.
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2010, 11:50:33 AM »

Anyone have luck with Shoe Goo? I have a friend whose Performa's have pinky pod issues. They need to be glued back on. Leather to rubber adhesion???
Shoe goo is great for fabric repairs and ok for sole repairs.  It is a medium strength glue with great flexibility and stretchiness.  I've used it on all my stuff for years.  When applying it, you kind of mold it into place with your fingers and hold it there for like a minute and then let it dry overnight and it will be fine.
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2010, 09:04:11 PM »

There is a product called Aquaseal by Mcnett.  REI has a nice package that comes with an accelerator/cleaning solvent.  The product is designed for wetsuit/dry suit repairs.  It is a urethane based repair adhesive and sealant.  This product also works great on rafts.  Anyhow it does dry very flexible and strong.  Only downfall is that it's recommended if not using the accelerator that comes with the tube that you should let the product cure for about 24 hours.  With the accelerator it takes about 2 hours to fix a repair however I probably would still wait it out.  I used this stuff on my bikila's but It's only been about 3 weeks.  Will keep everyone posted on any failure.
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2010, 09:31:16 PM »

krazy glue - look no further
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