Thanks everyone.

I haven't been wearing them for about two weeks now and the pain isn't going away.

I too was thinking it might be the way I'm walking in them.

I'll give them another try.   

I've have a pair of Bikilas and Speeds right now.  The Bikilias I use for the gym and treadmill use (walking only).  The Speeds are at my work and I wear them at the office.

Over the past two weeks or so I'm getting this pain in my knees.  It will switch from the left to the right, it's never at the same time. 

How I get this discomfort is when I kneel down.  It's like a bolt of lightning on the lower outside area of my kneecap.  Not under the kneecap but right next to it.  How I noticed this is when I give my infant son a bath in the tub (I'm kneeing).  I have since stopped my treadmill use (two weeks now).

I'm a bit confused because the first couple of months the VFFs were great.  I felt my posture got better but now I wonder if my use of these shoes isn't for me.

Anyone else have a similar pain?  I wonder if my feet are "collapsing" (don't know how else to describe it) since I do not have any arch support?

Thanks for any info.

My barefoot shoe journey started with the Filas.  Indeed the sole is much stiffer than VFF but there is some flex.

For me, I started to get a nasty blister on each heel due to the way the stitching was.  Returned mine and went to VFF.

I gave them a try because Fila was having a sale on their website.  Got a pair for $38.

Not a bad shoe, just not for me.

Hi everyone.  New member here.  Live in the 407 area codea area.   

I bought a pair of Bikilas last month and love them.  I use them for the gym and treadmill use.  I can already tell a difference in my posture by wearing them.

I've tried on just about every other pair of VFF, specifically black color.  I want to get a second pair as a casual, "everyday" shoe.  I have a pair of Speeds right now but I'm not sure about the sizing.

I look forward to gaining knowledge from everyone's experience, good or bad, on the different versions.

And my dream VFF would be a black with grey trim version of the Bikilas!

I found some info here (see post 2): http://birthdayshoes.com/forum/mods-and-repairs/speed-mod-for-the-wide-footed/

... I up sized from a M41 to a M42 and the discomfort I felt in the M41 disappeared.  Lucky for me, as I could never bring myself to cut into a brand new $100 pair of shoes.  I did not notice any difference in the toe length between the two sizes, but did gain the width I desperately needed.  ...

But wanted to know if others had similar results by going up a size.

Thanks.

I did not notice any difference in the toe length between the two sizes, but did gain the width I desperately needed. 

Interesting.  I just posted a question similar to your post here.  I have M40 Bikilas and just got the M40 Speeds.  The Speeds are really tight across the end of the toes area (not tips) and wondered if the M41 would give me more width to possibly lessen the pressure.  I'm not sure if they are supposed to be "tight" as much as they are right now.  I don't think the toe length is the issue.  My big toe seems to be at the end but I don't feel discomfort from it -- unless it's just masked right now by the tightness I'm feeling in both feet when wearing the M40 Speeds.

Hi everyone.  I've been wearing a pair of Bikilas for the past month -- first pair of VFF.        Size is M40.

I recently bought a pair of Speeds, size M40, online and wow they seem to be tight across the width of my foot but where my toes are in the shoes (not tip but "end" of toes, closer to ball of foot).  I've worn the Speeds for about 2 hours in the house and it wasn't feeling any better or "looser".  Now the shoes don't seem painful but they are more noticeable in tightness in the toe compartment area compared to my Bikilas.  When I took them off you could see the indentation on both big toes and pinky toes where the stitching is on the Speeds.  It's hard to describe, sorry.

My question is what do you "gain" but going up a size?  Meaning, am I only going to get longer shoes if I go to a M41 or will it be wider as well?  I don't think the length is the issue but my guess is the width isn't going to change by going up a size to a M41.  *shrug*

Thanks for any input/information and, again, this is specific to the Speeds.