I had a pair of M39 Black KSOs at first (which was about a size too small) that always cut me up too, I wouldn't wear them on runs past 2 miles if I could find a way around it.

I just got my pair of M40 Komodo LS about two months ago and they feel fantastic compared to my first pair, I haven't had any bad spots rubbing or cutting me, but that's my anecdotal case, and as far as my insight goes.

Best of luck!

Jeep, how does your track normally feel when it's not cold?  

I've seen a lot about people enjoying the feeling of their local tracks, but mine always pinches and stabs and leaves me feeling raw, maybe it's because ours is a fairly old track.

Ran 2.45 barefoot (my longest so far since swapping) on asphalt in my neighborhood as twilight faded to a pretty bright moon and a fantastic view of the stars.

Had a blast

I did indeed see the chart, I figured since I was closer to 10" (since it was between 10" and 10 1/8th'') I'd be a 39.  Just thought you were only supposed to size up if you were directly between two sizes or bigger?

Ironically enough, my brother just got a pair of M41 Black KSOs, which fit far too long on me as would be expected, though I don't remember how they were as far as the width.

So when I get to my next pair are you saying I should buy based on a 10 1/4th" size?

I'm looking at buying a pair of Bikilas or TrekSports, but I have a question on what size I should be getting.

Currently I have a pair of M39 Black KSOs, and when measuring my foot it ends up between 10 and 10 1/8th.

Lengthwise my toes almost fill the pockets, but aside from my big toe, they all have just a tad bit of space to the end of the pockets, looking at the width is a different story though.  Without socks I can pull the strap all the way across, but my feet get uncomfortable and the seams start to dig into my feet.  With the smallest thickness Injinjis, I can only comfortably get the strap halfway across. (The straps not closing all the way does cause issues when I wear jeans, as the exposed velcro tends to fray up the seams on the bottom of my pant legs)

Is this width problem because my KSOs are too small (in which case I should have M40's) or is it because I just have wide feet and should be looking at LS models?

I'd love to try some on in person but the nearest shop that carries VFFs is an hour away and I simply don't have the time to drive that far out (plus since I'm 17 my parents are thrilled about me driving off to the nearest city to go try on shoes) and I never really just happen to be out that way.

Thanks!

;P Thanks, I was having a pretty lazy night last night and had just finished a ton of essays and hadn't thought about it.

To barefoot/ minimalist running?

I just converted my best friend today on the last third of a mile on a 2 mile jog.

When showing him proper technique on a small gravel trail he was astonished how virtually all of his old knee/ ACL problems disappeared instantly (Neither of which I knew about...)

So just wondering then, how often do you try to show people the light on the better way to run?

"Sir, are those shoes? Because if they aren't you'll have to leave, this establishment has a no shirt, no shoes policy"

Coming from my grade-school friend who has been giving me grief about my weird "Gorilla Toes" at a restaurant

Oops! When I said right I meant left >.< My mistake.

Yeti, in the beginning of my runs I usually do feel tighter on the left calf, but the blister was on the ball of my foot just behind my big toe.

Thanks for the advice Horse Rider

Olarte, I loved the article, it really does help with the motivation and dealing with having to be patient with this, it's pretty great to know that there are plenty of people who've been in this situation before me.  And even more so that they have all been great and friendly so far

Hello

I guess I'm still relatively new, I think this is my second or third topic.

If you'd like to skip straight to the question it's right below this wall of text...

So a few (not so) quick points:  I am currently 17, weigh around 145-155, am about 5' 7" and I'm relatively small.  I'm in decent shape because I play tennis for my high school in the spring.  I ordered my first pair of VFFs about a month ago and started running little by little barefoot.  Only about a quarter mile running and walking every few days at the most.  My feet were pretty well calloused beforehand from tennis and my calf muscles were in pretty good shape from shuffling in tennis and being up on my toes. So running BF and in VFFs only really hurt the muscles in my feet, though nothing more than what can be expected.  However, I had stopped running barefoot for a while because three weeks of an enormous amount of homework and decided to go again the other night.  I ran a mile and walked a mile alternating every 1/4th.  After the run the skin on my feet felt pretty raw for a few days and a blister seemed to form under my callouses on the right foot, which appeared to have popped and made a ring of blood under the thick pad, which didn't really bother me just for the fact that it looked quite neat and only stung a small bit (think a paintball bruise if you've seen one).  I'm working on building up my distance and comfort while I run, and I try to get in two miles every other day (Working with a couch to 5k app that I had started on the second week).

Q) My biggest question though has to deal a bit with the book Born to Run if you've read it.  When telling Barefoot Ted's story it almost seems like he dropped his shoes and within a relatively short time was pounding out full marathons.  And from what I've heard running is actually enjoyable for a lot of people *gasp!* right? Like that hasn't been said on this forum... Anyhow, I enjoy running, somewhat.  Currently it's a huge stress relief for me (Senior year is way busier than it should be) but once I hit two miles I cramp up in my side like I'm out of shape and if I run any harder than a quick jog my right shoulder and neck get super sore and my vision gets spots (the shoulder might be because of my back which has alignment problems, seeing a Chiropractor for that currently).  It's as if once I hit that two mile point or try to push hard my rhythm gets unstable, my form becomes rough, and running becomes a chore.  Now I'm far from being out of shape, though not quite fit, but how long should I expect before I start to really love running longer distances?  In five years I'd like to be attempting my first Ultra, though at this rate I feel frustrated some days and that goal seems far too far away.

Thanks! (sorry for the double walls of text...)

Took my second SAT test yesterday, trying to get a 40,000 scholarship that I've missed by very small amounts. (30 points the first time on the SAT and then 2 and 1 points on the two times I did the ACT)

:)Felt great about this one though, perhaps my VFFs helped me get in the zone   plenty of great looks from the teachers and students at the test center though, apparently no one wears them at their school.

Alrighty, I'll try that out.  Washed them with fabric softener but it didn't seem to help any, though some of the glue on the toes now appears to have already given out :/

Ran my very first mile in my first pair of KSOs and did my warm-up and cool down barefoot, my cool down was me walking across town another mile to go buy my drink and walking back. 
Loved every second of it!

Woo! I was curious if they could handle the shuffling, because I usually wear through a pair of court shoes in about six months, or running shoes in a good 3 weeks...

Thanks for the thread

Okay, so after reading most of this thread I want to double check something.

I have M39 Black/Black KSOs, my big toes fit their pockets pretty much exactly, but aren't restricted or tight, the other toes all have a little extra length when my toes are straight but hit the edges of the pockets when I flex them up.  My issue is that the internal seams on the side right behind the big toe really dig into me and are starting to make blisters. and the very back of the shoes are rubbing my skin raw over the Achilles.

So would sizing up to 40's be too large in a different color? ( I wanted a different color but Black was my only option from the site I got them)
If so, would size 40 Blacks still be a better option?