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1  Barefoot Activities / VFF, Barefoot, or Natural Running Discussion / Re: Metatarsalgia and Concrete Running in VFF's on: June 08, 2013, 04:18:48 PM

If I may, what kind of minimalist-friendly cushioned running shoes (a paradox, I know, but at least something that's got a roomy toebox and is close to zero-drop) would you suggest I use in the meanwhile while I heal up?

I don't see any paradox in that. It's all about the spectrum. I wore Saucony Mirage (my transition shoe ) and Altra Instinct while my nerve was healing. I also went to chiropractor, two times, for A.R.T. and I have very good result with this.

It doesn't matter if the shoe is minimalistic or not. At the end of the day, what count is you can heal your metatarsalgia fast and you can run again with injury free. Barefoot running style is very good mean to improve running form. But this doesn't answers all question. For myself, I don't care what type of shoe I wear, as long as I can run fast and injury free, I'm ok with this.

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my 2 cents. 

Well, it's a bit interesting, as it turns out my feet are too wide for the Altras :l

I'm curious, though; would enough recovery time help me transition completely into minimalist shoes without having to buy a different pair to do so? Plus, it appears my metatarsalgia is almost completely gone, so I'm wondering if that's the case - it would be great if that could be the case Cheesy
2  Barefoot Activities / VFF, Barefoot, or Natural Running Discussion / Re: Metatarsalgia and Concrete Running in VFF's on: May 27, 2013, 06:12:27 PM
Wow, quite a few responses in a short amount of time, heh. The fast feedback is much appreciated Cheesy

Have you double checked your running form?

Well, I've tried to do so - while I haven't been training using the 100-Up technique quite yet (should be, though), I have been trying to apply its principles (a bit backwards, I know - perfect form is necessary with the 100-Up) by trying to make sure I bring up my knees and the like. Otherwise, I'm not absolutely sure :l

As for the healing up, I'm kind of chomping at the bit to get back to running to and from places - it's more or less for me, it's that parkour-sense of freedom (although I don't do any :l) when I run, if you see what I mean :l

Matt, just curious,  do your heel "kiss" the ground when you are running or they stay always on the air ?

My heel does land on the ground - I know it's bad if I'm relying solely on my ball of foot for landing.

When you started running in minimalist shoes, did you just jump into it right away or did you give yourself a few months to transition?

When I first started running in VFFs, I just jumped into it right away and about six months later I got metatarsalgia in the right foot.  Using an insert did help with the pain.  I didn't heed the warning signs and was eventually hit with top of the foot pain which sidelined me from running for two weeks straight.  Thankfully, it was not a metatarsal stress fracture.

I'd recommend going back to the basics and a cushioned running shoe until the pain heals, then reintroducing yourself to minimalist or barefoot running slowly.  Once healed, I ran in minimalist shoes once a week for the first two months -- always on the short distance day of the week -- and then added an additional minimalist running day every month thereafter.  I've been injury free for the past two years now and the only time a warning sign of metatarsalgia or TOFP might pop up is when I increase my mileage dramatically, like when I was training for a marathon earlier this year.  Once I recognize those warning signs, I cut back on the minimalist mileage and running days for at least two weeks.  (Or in the case of the marathon, I switched over to the Altra Instinct for that event and any runs over half marathon distance.  I do aspire to run a marathon in minimalist shoes one day, but I reckon for me that's at least two years away.)

Hitting the reset button on your running may sound like a pain, but it's better to go back to the basics than to be sidelined for the long term with a running injury.

Yeah, it is kind of a pain :l As I mentioned earlier, running for me isn't running in of itself - it's mainly to get to work, to class, back home, perhaps picking up groceries, and that's pretty much about it. I used to only walk to do all of these things and for a little while actually wore a weight vest at the same time, but since I've lightened loads, found myself wanting more to run to and from places - more or less to get to them faster and to also avoid being late as much as it is about exercise.

If I may, what kind of minimalist-friendly cushioned running shoes (a paradox, I know, but at least something that's got a roomy toebox and is close to zero-drop) would you suggest I use in the meanwhile while I heal up?

Also, one thing I was possibly considering was Luna Sandals - in this case, the Leadville - as I've heard they're cushier than VFF's. Something tells me a pair of those won't help, but I could be wrong - opinions?
3  Barefoot Activities / VFF, Barefoot, or Natural Running Discussion / Metatarsalgia and Concrete Running in VFF's on: May 26, 2013, 01:30:03 PM
Hey guys,

I've been wearing VFF's and toe shoes for a little while now (first started off with the Fila Skeletoes in late 2011 and then changed to the VFF KSO Trek and eventually the Lontra (which I use all the time now)), and haven't had much in problems until recently, when I encountered a bout of metatarsalgia in the ball of my right foot, and for quite a few weeks, I could barely run without pain, and it was only after I put in an insert suggested by my doctor (who appears to be VFF and minimalist-friendly) that I could. It's healed up some since, but I can still feel it every now and then, and am starting to worry it's starting to happen with my left foot.

Now, I love my VFF's and would much prefer to continue running in them, but does anyone have any suggestions to avoid further bouts of metatarsalgia in the future? I run, but it's mainly to get to and from places, so the vast majority of my running is on concrete, unfortunately :l


4  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Speed XC and Lontra on: November 04, 2012, 12:55:13 AM
I just got me my pair of Lontras today.

It's really interesting, because while the right shoe is perfect, the left one... well, it's not so great. Not sure exactly why, but the toes in the left one appear to be very stiff (the water-resistant fabric, which worked brilliantly, by the way, wasn't really stiff and rather comfortable) and digs into my feet/toes, which is very uncomfortable (although unlike @Robert's experiences, I wore them for hours and didn't have any problems aside from the stiffness in the "toe dividers" in my left shoe) - it's just really annoying as hell). After feeling the "toe dividers" (not sure what the actual term is - it's the part between the toes that wedges that divides each toe and gives it its own home) for my right shoe and then my left shoe, my left one is much stiffer. The right one is soft and perfectly fine. I had my mum have a feel and get her thoughts on it, and she reckoned it was the threading/stitching, I think.

Now, I'm not sure about how the whole thing works, but I'm curious - it somewhat feels like that the stiffness in the left shoe is something that needs to be broken in (although it shouldn't be like that, I know). Does anyone have any ideas on how to "break in" the toe dividers of my left shoe so that they're just as soft as the ones in my right shoe aside from general wearing and having to just take the discomfort? Or is there something genuinely defective about the left shoe that cannot be helped?



P.S. I actually found that the neoprene cuff for the Lontras I got wasn't too tight at all - it was just right, and without any need for breaking in with a bottle Cheesy
5  Barefoot Activities / VFF, Barefoot, or Natural Running Discussion / Re: Heel Striking for Walking? on: April 24, 2012, 05:54:36 PM
This has been beat to death, but long story short.... when it comes to walking, do whatever feels natural.  You are not exerting extra stress when walking becuase it is slow going.  The heel is designed for balance which means it is good for standing and slow movement.

Stay focused on your running form and do whatever is comfortable when walking.  if you polled the site you would see a split between heel-midfoot-forefoot strike.   

Ah, thanks for the info, everyone Cheesy

It's more or less also the fact that my friends reckon I'm like a T-Rex when I walk with a forefoot strike and am unconsciously trying to make myself look taller, since I apparently have a tendency to bob up and down more while doing so. I don't really see a difference, but there it is.

Now, the next problem is to figure out which feels more comfortable for walking, 'cause both styles feel about the same amount of comfort... *ponders*
6  Barefoot Activities / VFF, Barefoot, or Natural Running Discussion / Heel Striking for Walking? on: April 24, 2012, 02:20:36 PM

Matt here. I'm kinda new to the BirthdayShoes Forums, but I've been lurking around on the main website and looking through all sorts of articles.

Now, this might be a bit of a newbie/daft question, but I've been wearing toeshoes for a little while now, and got me a pair of KSO Treks last month. Both of my friends have noticed my change in foot strike and they both say it's weird as hell, and one of them says that heel striking is supposed to be better, as her sister used to walk with a forefoot strike and ended up in casts for it because she was in pain from doing so.

Now, before anyone start raising objections to this, I know the forefoot strike is better for running. However, the thing is that she also said that she does use a forefoot strike while running, and all of the videos and guides I've seen on the main website have only covered running, not walking.

The question I'm asking here; is heel striking for walking only fine? I tried a little bit of it and for walking the heel strike seems fine, whereas trying it for running I could definitely feel more clunky and not so natural.

What are your guys' thoughts?
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