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 on: June 19, 2016, 09:26:08 AM 
Started by live2fish88 - Last post by live2fish88
Hey guys! New to the forums. I'm looking for a vibram shoe that would be good for water type activities. I kayak and fish, both fresh and salt (kayak fresh for now). I wear a size 13 in shoes but measure my foot at 11 1/4" (puts me between a 45 and 46). Some of my fishing spots are fairly rocky (pointy rocks) and sandy. I may also point out (don't know if insoles are different in them) that I had an ACL replacement about two years ago as well as some meniscus cleanout (cushions your knee) so I would possibly like something with some support and cushion, but it's not a necessity if it will make them super thick at the bottom. I'm thinking i'd like them thin(ner) so I can feel structure in the water if fly fishing or something so I don't slip and further strain my knee but at the same time I don't want to be jumping everytime I step on a sharp rock on shore. I'm complicated, I know! Just trying to help you all figure out my needs. I used to wear "water shoes" but they tear easily and as I become older, they look more childish to me. Any help is very much appreciated! I have no experience with vibram five finger shoes at all, my buddy had the originals when they came out but that was so long ago I couldn't even pick them from a lineup. Nobody in my area carries them as far as I know.

 on: June 18, 2016, 01:29:52 PM 
Started by zrunner - Last post by zrunner
for running what is everyone take on landing more midfoot vs more forefoot? i've noticed sometimes I could go either way with this. I prefer more forefoot for fear of not being as light on my feet and stomping  a rock or something. but I wonder sometimes if i'd have less pain issues if i strived for more of a midfoot landing. but I suppose by midfoot i mean slightly fore foot mid not like a flat footed landing. I tend to be able to power my run more form the glutes and hamstrings better this way as well and less push off at the calf.

on a side note i ran 8 miles today in newton tri racers they are 0 drop not super minimal but not really coushy at all its a fairly firm shoe. I really liked them again like i mentioned before tho about a shoe without toes your foot slips in them a hair helping to coushion the impact something that doesnt ever happen in vibrams unless your unning on gravel or sandy asphalt etc.. I swear this makes a huge diffrence and I sometimes wonder if I would have a lot more luck in a merrel trail glove over a vibram for the surfaces i'm on.

All that being said I am also reading more and more about going full barefoot first THEN moving into vibrams. I dont have many good surfaces to try this if any cept this track that was entirely too hot today to do that ( i tried) My one gripe with going full bare I think i might have to go very very slow till my feet got stronger and i got tougher calluses and such. This is a good thing from one perspective.

I guess its all a matter of what i'm after.

 on: June 17, 2016, 11:40:25 AM 
Started by Draco - Last post by nowster
I've noticed many ladies do drive barefoot especially if they've been wearing heeled shoes just before entering the car.

 on: June 17, 2016, 09:58:48 AM 
Started by zrunner - Last post by zrunner
jsut to add i use a garmin when i runa nd it tracks my cadence etc... in VFF i can easily get 170 or so give or take a couple. but in regular shoes i'm down to like 165 164. this is a pretty noticeable difference to me. But the main point i want to make is without really having to think about it i have a faster cadence in a VFF it just comes easier. that translates into a shorter stride and better overall form all around without having to put forth a ton of effort to do so.

 on: June 17, 2016, 09:46:38 AM 
Started by zrunner - Last post by zrunner
one thing i'm pondering as well is this twist i tend to do just prior to lifting a foot off the ground in VFF it might be less forgiving (hence the swelling at the base of the metarsils or even some of the other issues i've expiereinced while running) I have to wonder if a shoe like a trail glove could be a better choice as my toes would not be trying to stay one way while the foot twists. Even if i where totally barefoot my toes would not be restricted by a shoe. For example if i land in a regular flat shoe my foot might slip in the shoe a tad helping brace the impact. IN a VFF this doesnt happen unless the ground has like say sand or something then there imght be some slippage that helps brace the impact. As i take off the toe pockets restrict my toes from flexing how my foot wants too. where as if i where barefoot or in a regular shoe my toes could work with the foot in a way they are used too.

this could be an issue with me correcting my form but also could be an issue with the shoe needing to break in more or my foot needing to adapt more etc...

I'm tempted to try a trail glove the version 3 has a hair more meat on it then my tesla barefoot shoe. and it has a vibram sole so i'm sure much better traction then the tesla barefoot. I like the tesla barfoot BUT i feel every dang thing in the world under my feet and on a rough surface this isnt exactly fun. and where i live many of the roads are pretty rough.

curious what others 2 cents are on this. I hate feeling like i'm overthinking this whole thing But i'm desperatly trying to figure out what my issues are.

I swear all i do is shovel money out the door for shoes that dont work lol. I've had some models i've loved over the years however but the companies redesigned em or stopped making them that was also back in my heal striking days. since gong forefoot i've realized coushion and a strcutured shoe is like enemy number 1 and if its not as flat as possible its even harder to keep a good form.

I swear i'll be totally barefoot when this is all done and over with lol its just a matter of me getting angry enough about this whole ordeal and just going out there barefoot.

 on: June 17, 2016, 08:40:33 AM 
Started by zrunner - Last post by zrunner
yeah thats basicly what i do as well. but keep in mind i was a habitual heal striker for as long as i can remember up until febuary. Then since then I've had a couple good injuries that prevented me from keeping a good form as well. So while i'm doing the same i'm sure i'm not doing it perfectly lol. At times i do tho and i can feel it. Its one reason why i prefer vibrams is considerably easier for me to keep a good form in VFF vs regular shoes. But my feet just cant take the beating yet. I need more foot strength.

I'd say there is still some pushoff with the forefoot / brace for impact with the foot as well. They describe a midfoot landing in that video. I do more a forefoot landing. when i land midfoot I tend to start heal striken or its a hard midfoot landing.

 on: June 16, 2016, 08:04:45 PM 
Started by zrunner - Last post by Rex_Kwon_Do
I am not affiliated with the program and did not use it to learn minimalist running, but it does (for the most part) explain many of the things that I do when I run.  I hope it helps.

 on: June 16, 2016, 07:35:31 PM 
Started by Draco - Last post by Juros44
A lady driver here that drives barefoor, its more comfortable for me.

 on: June 16, 2016, 07:23:29 PM 
Started by Tgraburn - Last post by Juros44
You might want to consider checking this site: These should be able to tell you which one to get depending on your need, I Personally recommend Bates GX-8 you’ll get your money’s worth out of the 8-inch Ultra-Lites Waterproof Boot.

 on: June 16, 2016, 12:16:22 PM 
Started by Juros44 - Last post by Juros44
Hi Forum, KD here, Good day Everyone!

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