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 on: July 06, 2016, 03:00:21 PM 
Started by zrunner - Last post by zrunner
I know it was suggested that i get a pair of bikilia WP for winter time running. and I just might if when the time comes i can still find a pair in my size it is also possible i'll go through a few pairs as My regular pair of bikilias has about 200 miles on them now and I figure i might be able to squeek another 50 out of them this is only a months worht of running for me. So come winter I might go through a few pairs...

That being said does anyone think the trek ascent insulated would be a good choice? what is the liklihood of vibram coming out with something new in time. IE they had the lantras right? and then the bikilia WP that got discontinued... so maybe theyw ill come out with something?

Also the bikilia WP had some mixed reviews about it not holding up that is something else that has me on the fence.

otherwise i'm thinking about a trail glove maybe with a heavy wool sock but weary about that choice for a few reasons one is the last time i wore regular socks while running (not toe socks) i got horrible blisters odd since i used to wear regular socks all the time but i guess my toes are more in the game these days.

 on: July 02, 2016, 09:35:40 AM 
Started by Seasurfer - Last post by zrunner
yep I lived in south florida myself for years. the roads around here are not too terrible heat wise. but that track that day was brutal. I dont have a ton of totally barefoot running expiereince and also wonder if added friction from runnign would add to the burn i'm not sure however.

yeah stained wood like that can be brutal.

yeah its kinda like picking up after your dog. sure people could do that but people can also watch where they walk too. thats how i feel anyhow lol. But with running in vibrams I like the more aware feeling. i try to pay more attention to what i'm doing this makes me more present and in the moemnt. I do like zoning out during a run as well soemthing I missed at first when i switched but now If i have scoped out an area and no its clear of issues i'll typically zone out some after that.

i read one story of a guy stomping a nail in vibrams and it went through is foot too he was lucky and it didnt cause any bad damage but I think he stated he was going back to something with a tougher sole after that. I guess tho even in regular runnig shoes i've stomped rocks myself and been sent to the ceiling in pain so shoes dont always make any difference!

God willing anything i put on my foot going forward will be as flat as flat can be. and I'll be barefoot otherwise myself.

 on: July 02, 2016, 09:30:04 AM 
Started by Seasurfer - Last post by zrunner
yeah i used to live near the ocean myself and it was pretty common for people to wear sandals or no shoes. now i'm in the cold north. I got into the bad habit of wearing shoes MORE often when i started running more. For a few reasons after a long hard run the coushion and structure of a shoe felt good to me that was a mistake. Also my feet are always cold so i liked the added warmth.

this caused two problems it weekend my feet and made my skin too soft etc.. so now i've been building up my calluses again and so on.

 on: July 02, 2016, 09:27:10 AM 
Started by Seasurfer - Last post by zrunner
i would think and i've heard many people say there feet got wider and toes more spread out after wearing these shoes.  i know in my case its happened a little bit.

I have some strange stuff going on with my feet. for example i tend to put my weight ont he ball of my foot with the right but on the heel with the left. and the ball under the toe on my right foot is very stiff pronounced i feel it with ever step but on the left foot i dont feel it at all and can cause me to walk funny as i try to feel when i step but cant. I also have a high 2nd metarsil on the left foot and I cant help but wonder if its from all the years of being mashed in shoes that it kinda rose some becuase it was squished in there I hope it drops it might help me feel that ball of the foot better as i step if it where too.

I walked outside in vibrams all day long at a park. I will say my feet where tired / worn out some but once i took the vibrams off i was like hmmm they dont feel so bad and this morning they feel better then they have many mornings it makes me think i need to add walking into my routine to help break my feet in more to these shoes since i feel better.

 on: July 01, 2016, 10:40:36 PM 
Started by Seasurfer - Last post by Seasurfer

One toe on my left foot is still messed up from wearing shoes, if you Google correct crooked toes they sell these spreaders that are supposed to fix crooked toes and I would think these toe shoes should have the same effect.

That toe did get a little  better after I quit wearing shoes unless I absolutely  totally have to but again I was thinking that if regular shoes mess up your feet by jamming your toes together then these finger shoes should have the opposite effect by keeping them apart right ?

 on: July 01, 2016, 10:28:40 PM 
Started by Seasurfer - Last post by Seasurfer
i personally dont play golf or like it really. but you make a very good point that grass would feel pretty awesome totally barefoot.

It really should  be played barefoot, I think too many people just don't like feet because shoes make them nasty so they wear shoes more to hide them and that makes them more nasty and perpetuates the nastiness.   

I live in a beach town but still sometimes in stores people are like OMG look a person barefoot in here...   Oh so what really who cares.

Tourists !

 on: July 01, 2016, 10:18:52 PM 
Started by Seasurfer - Last post by Seasurfer
I took my five fingers off at the track and was gonna run but the track was smoking hot i woulda burned the heck out of myself

I am in Florida and the blacktop doesn't get hot enough to burn me anymore, the pool deck sometimes does though dark stained wood.

Just for fun I have one of these inferred thermometers

I can check out how hot the street gets and that parking lot that is almost black and the pool deck that if its no wind at all is too hot.

People do comment to me "how do you walk on that?"

I never tried them Vibram shoes I almost bought a pair once the one time I saw them in a store on vacation.

glass or a nail

I don't want to bring myself bad luck but I will say it doesn't happen, I am really risking bad luck maybe but I rarely stub toes anymore it just becomes natural to watch where you are going and step right.

I never tried them Vibram shoes I almost bought a pair once the one time I saw them in a store on vacation.

They look cool and I imagine they wouldn't make toes all crooked by jamming them up like regular shoes I hate wearing now.

 on: July 01, 2016, 01:25:58 PM 
Started by Seasurfer - Last post by zrunner
i personally dont play golf or like it really. but you make a very good point that grass would feel pretty awesome totally barefoot.

 on: July 01, 2016, 01:24:57 PM 
Started by Seasurfer - Last post by zrunner
anger for me. As a runner I just got so stinking sick of problem after problem with shoes. simply walking in shoes you notice problems after 6 months or a year maybe but running? you notice them in weeks. just the foam sole on a shoe caused so maybe problems with my gait. then the sole would wear screwy and i'd have ankle pain or foot pain or my range of motion was screwed with etc.. I also was getting so tired how shoes just didnt last very long for me 200 miles tops and any more i was asking for pains somewhere.

I got so angry in the end i was pretty close to just throwing my shoes int he woods and running home barefoot. But I new i wasnt ready for that and I new 'id likely stomp rocks glass nails etc... So since feb I've been wearing vibrams and running in them off and on tho they are all i run in at this point thankfully.

they dont seem to mess with my gait and they tend to wear in a way that doesnt mess with things etc..

I do think about going full barefoot for running but for example just the other day I took my five fingers off at the track and was gonna run but the track was smoking hot i woulda burned the heck out of myself so put them back on. I also routinely dodge nails and glass as i run and rocks. I occasiionally miss something and stomp a rock. If i missed on glass or a nail i'd be asking for it. so for now I gotta have some protection.

The other big issue for me was the zero drop. my foot feels better when its moving properly on a zero drop. i dunno regular shoes just feel so unnautural and give me so many issues.

Granted in my case if i gave up running I might be able to just go back to regular old shoes and deal with all the same issues but it would be in a more mild form since it woudlnt be so many miles over such a short period of time. but why.

Now i'm shopping for a barefoot insulated boot or sorts for winter. as well as another pair of vibrams for running. I got 170 miles on my bikilas and they are getting a couple thing spots. i figure in another 50-80 miles they will be toast. thts not to bad since its the first pair i got for running. tho i have 2 other pairs i could run in i do like bikilas a lot.

 on: July 01, 2016, 12:18:15 AM 
Started by Seasurfer - Last post by Seasurfer

Golf , the only sport played on toxic waste dumps.

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