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 on: July 25, 2016, 04:41:07 PM 
Started by zrunner - Last post by zrunner
What models tend to last longer on the sole vs others for you guys?

I got a pair of bikilias with 200 miles on them I'd say in another 50 i'd wear a hole in them. at least the right foot anyhow. Tho i retired this pair due to them being too tight on the top of my foot.

I notice the KMD 's have a thicker tougher sole it seems but i wonder do they last longer? I like this sole on the rough roads and such by me and cant help but wonder if it'll last longer.

KSO's I have have a super thin sole from the start I gotta wonder how long they will last but i dont wear them for running very often so it doesnt matter to me.

SeeYa Ls' seem to have a really thick sole as well tho I dont wear these anymore.

But regardless I'm curious what ones seem to last the longest and what are the pro s and cons?

 on: July 25, 2016, 04:37:27 PM 
Started by zrunner - Last post by zrunner
for what its worth i ran in those KMD LS's relaced today was great just did 3.25 miles went really well. I think they are a hair small to be honest but I dunno they felt great while i ran in them so maybe they just need a bit of break in time. I got another pair in a diff color gonna relace those too! i got lucky scored this pair for 40 bucks Smiley

 on: July 24, 2016, 01:26:32 PM 
Started by zrunner - Last post by zrunner
yeah well i dunno that i coulda figured it out without being able to ask folks here. My biggest issues where essentially over striding with a forefoot string and those bikilias being too tight on the top of my foot. sure lots of other issues popped up along the way as my feet adapted and such.

I got a fun one going now my left foot seems to be rubbing the seem of the shoe a bit too much. its not a huge issue yet.

tommorrow I'm going to run in a pair of KMD Ls's that I relaced so they would give me the room i need on the top of my foot i'm super eager to see how that goes going to try it out on a short run to be safe and see how it goes. tho i've run in them before with the laces tigher and had minimal issues so I thnk having the extra room will just sweeten the deal with these.

 on: July 24, 2016, 12:25:39 PM 
Started by zrunner - Last post by Rex_Kwon_Do
Congratulations on your progress, zrunner. 

 on: July 23, 2016, 09:03:00 AM 
Started by dirkverelst - Last post by zrunner
random kid

Kid: "i like your shoes"
me: "thanks"
kid: "you must have to have really peftect feet to be able to fit in those"
me: "lol yep"

 on: July 22, 2016, 04:54:45 PM 
Started by zrunner - Last post by zrunner
thanks rex yeah i've checked that out before.

I"m doing great now 40+ miles a week. I do still have some minor stuff going on but I think its mainly just typical wear and tare of running and well further refining my form. Some stuff i had back when i was a heal striker i wonder if it will ever go away lol.

I'm gingerly / lazily working back up to my 50 mile per week avg. trying not to go too crazy dont wanna hurt myself but also i wont lie its partly laziness as well.

My speed is coming back as well tho for my usual training i tend to just go slow and steady focus on form as best i can. but every now and then i open it up and go nuts and i seem to be just as fast as I always was. I hope to one day maybe even be faster as a result of changing form and shoes. but time will tell.

 on: July 22, 2016, 04:51:24 PM 
Started by zrunner - Last post by zrunner

I'll get a pair of treks insulated. and give them a whirl when it gets colder I do also ponder merrel trail glove as i could stuff my foot in a wool sock in them (heavy wool). I"ll get it figured out.

its hard in the winter. I dont like to venture to far from home when its cold so i end up doing laps to get the miles in. I'm always worried if i got hurt and was soaked in sweat 8 miles away wtf would i do that sorta thing. Tho I might have to just put my big boy pants on and take my phone with me tho i despise taking it.

I'm going to check out those boots too.

the kicker is say i'm hiking and camping and its going to be 30 degrees while i hike and maybe 20 while i camp. while i'm moving uninsulated boots work i'll be cold but i'll live soon as i stop for the night Forget it feet get so cold its terrifiying as a result I own a 400gram insulated and 2400gram for just such occasions. I'd love to find the equivelent in a barefoot boot! but it almost seems liek I wont be able too.

In the past running i've survived in regular shoes with heavy socks but barefoot shoes is a bit concerning since hte sole is so thin no insulation there and with vibrams say I cant just put a huge wool sock on. I think the treks will work as long as i keep moving which well tahts the whole point of running.

running errands in the winter i'm ok with a non insulated shoe tho do prefer one. treks may suffice there I'll have to find out.

I"m one of those who has cold feet every day of the year it really stinks.

 on: July 22, 2016, 04:43:40 PM 
Started by zrunner - Last post by zrunner
thanks rex. I actually just relaced a pair of KMD LS I got. there was just NO room in the laces supplied by vibram. I put yankz on them they feel wonderful now so much better huge improvement I know walking will be great in them. BUT i have not ran in them yet. I'm going to run in them on a short run day and see how it goes. I have another pair of KMD's that I've ran in a bunch of time with little issue but they where always snug. now with the new laces I think this might do the trick.

The bikilias tho to be honest even with a new set of laces they are still not quite right the next size up would be the only solution I think. The v-runs in the exact same size are great. almost a little too roomy. I notice tho a slight amt of room is not a  terrible thing as my foot comes down it might slip slightly in the shoe at times and this tends to help with impact.

I did notice today tho in the v-runs 6 miles in i had to loosen the left shoe some no biggie thats kinda normal that the foot spreads some on a longer run etc..

Yeah I also think my feet are getting wider perhaps too so this might all go out the window and I might be up a size at some point.

When i started forefoot running I was wearing a size 9 in a regular shoe now forget it. I wear a 10 in any normal shoe. Tho I dont wear normal shoes anymore cant stand them after going flat and barefoot.

 on: July 15, 2016, 02:32:42 PM 
Started by zrunner - Last post by Rex_Kwon_Do
emailed vibram about the lace issue they suggested yankz laces so I ordered a pair. I'll try them out see how they are and use them again on whatever shoe i might need to use them on.

sort of a frustrating problem since many other models in the same size are just fine so i'm not crazy.

My feet are too wide now for many Vibrams to feel right out of the box.  After a few runs they break in nicely.  I pay more attention to length than anything although my Speeds are a touch long, but it really doesn't seem to matter much.  I have re-laced several Vibrams because of lacing issues and generally prefer laced models because it is easier to get a custom fit.  Best of luck.

 on: July 15, 2016, 02:28:16 PM 
Started by zrunner - Last post by Rex_Kwon_Do
do you have one you would recomend the injini socks dont look all that thick to me from the pics on line anyhow. I'd imagine injinji socks in a bikilia and i might end up with cold feet tho in the trek ascent insulated it might be ok.

too thick and i'm gonna have to size up or something i wore 2 socks once and my toe joints all hurt real bad after a that run and i never did it again felt like  cast on my feet with the shoe and all was all very stiff.

I"m a special snow flake too when it comes to cold and feet for running in the past it was a really thick wool sock and i do mean thick in a regular runnig shoe and i'd normally be fine during a run with that sometimes it was a regular sock with that over top but that was if it was like 10 degrees out or something.

for every day wear tho in the winter i'd be surprised if the trek ascent insulated would be warm enough for me. I ususally in the past wore a pretty well insulated boot and if i was going to be outside for hours I have a boot thats ions more insulated just for that purpose its like a heater on my foot lol.

I'd imagine tho for just running around town and such trek ascent insulated would be ok.

I don't have experience with the models you are referencing, but as a winter runner whose favorite is running in snow, I can say that Vibrams can work well as long as you keep moving and/or don't spend much time outside.  That is to say if you are going to be standing around in the cold/wet/snow/ice, Vibrams are not the best choice.  For running errands and running, I have no problem with Vibrams at all and wear them most of the winter.  For running in snow and ice, you should know that your feet will get wet, but the wet-suit effect will eventually warm them up enough, but they will probably never be warm.  Think cold but not frozen.  At one point I was soaking my feet with my Vibram Flows on before runs, but now I just let the conditions wet my feet and know that I will not freeze my digits off.  Every once in a while I may pause to grab my toes and give them a little extra warmth, but I have realized that I will not freeze.  I now have insulated Treks/Speeds and find running in them is similar to the Flows that eventually wore out.  If you are cold blooded, I would not recommend Vibrams in the winter.  When I am not as active outside in the winter, I use the Belville MiniMil boots and cannot say enough great things about them.

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