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« on: October 27, 2010, 09:55:19 PM »

Hey guys and gals, if any of you know me I have been traditionally not involved with competitive running. As time has moved on I have wanted more and more to race, I am not sure why I just want to. Not to win, just to finish. So I got some advice from one of my friends who is very very good at running but he runs shod. (I do find the need to say that he is saving up for vffs so he can switch over completely. I let him try mine on and he loves it.) and by good I mean he does 8 miles a day everyday but sunday without any pain. It is his usual. I want to do a 3k by december the first. That is when our little downtown christmas run is. I am going to take his training schedule advice but I wanted to hear some strictly barefoot or minimalist runners ideas.

Background: when I run it has always been barefoot, or recently in vffs. I just never have the will to do more than a mile. But dont worry about my form or my legs. the reason I cannot run further is this crazy problem: I have a hard time breathing! I feel no pain in my legs or feet because I work out a lot and I work outdoors, I just dont have the stamina. People talk about how their legs hurt after vff running but that is the only part of my body that feels great. Does anyone have this problem of intense chest pain and cramps after a mile? How have you gotten over it? What causes it?

Once I can knock that out I wont have any problem. I am doing a half mile every 2 days with my really good friend as his warm up. He said I am going to slowly build up and he is not letting me quit but I wanted to see if yall know how to make that awful chest crap go away or if it will just come with time.

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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2010, 01:11:31 AM »

Not sure where you are located, but if you've recently started running it could be the cold.  Sometimes it effects peoples lungs?  Make sure to stay hydrated throughout the day. I can usually run through chest cramps, but it sometimes helps to put your hands on your head and open up the lungs.... You look dumb, but it helps.  Maybe slow your pace down and trade off with a longer run?  You could also try cycling or swimming to help build up stamina.  Finally I sometimes get bad heartburn, not from running, but it'll typically kick in when I hit about a mile.
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2010, 06:20:06 AM »

When I started running 24 years ago, I couldn't run 1/2 mile without becoming breathless. Then one day I ran with two friends and realized my difficulty was because when I ran alone, I was trying to run too fast. Slow your pace way down til you actually feel comfortable. Don't worry about how you look, just worry about how you feel. You may be amazed at how far you can run if you start slowly and then maintain a steady pace. As your aerobic capacity responds, you can slowly increase your speed. Good luck!

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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2010, 09:12:21 AM »

I had a co-worker who complained about the same thing.  He was a very new runner, doing so to lose some weight and get in better shape.  Anyhow he'd always complain about not being able to run more than a mile or two at a time, 3-4 days a week.  Well after a bit of digging I found out that he was basically trying to sprint every time he ran! ha!  He'd been training alone and didn't know any other way!  So after a bit of coaching I convinced him to slow down his pace, even break it up between a mixture of running and walking.  Over time try to mix in more running and less walking until eventually you're just mainly running.  Not sure if this helps, but if you want to build stamina and you're not getting there by running alone, try mixing it up and just go longer even if it means walking.

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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2010, 12:53:55 PM »

echo all of the above.

What you describe normally results from over cooking it from the off.

Back off the pace and go longer.

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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2010, 03:16:40 PM »

Thanks! That is good to hear. I will try that, I was probably trying to go to fast.

And no in florida it is never colder than 40 degrees. Really good winter weather here Tongue

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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2010, 04:29:55 PM »

One more suggestion for you that may help you keep the pace manageable:  try a heart rate monitor.
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2010, 06:45:41 PM »

I was recommended a heart rate monitor too. It would probably be a good idea - I am a long legged skinny thing and I think my natural inclination is either to walk, or to sprint (Maybe I was a cheetah in another life...  Grin) I too struggled to run  even just a quarter of a mile at a time when I first tried to train for a 5K back in May.

After feedback and since the run I have realised I struggled because my pace was too fast...

So yes, stamina was a problem. Nausea too - again, probably from exhaustion in running too bloody fast...  Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2010, 07:03:30 PM »

Another tip might be to change your mentallity about the run.  Don't think about the distance, think about the time.  Make it a goal to be able to run for XX:XX amount of time without rest, as long as you are moving it doesn't really matter your pace.  Don't worry about the distance.
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2010, 11:07:45 PM »

yea guys. I tried to slow down my pace. I tried to keep it slow while still running. It was all really easy but at a 1/4 mile i got that cold sore thought and cramp and trouble breathing. Just gonna keep going at it. Doin a 1/2 mile every 3 days. That is what my friend told me to start at until it did not make my chest do that.

I cannot really afford a heart rate monitor right now. And I do not want to go by a certain time because that would drive my head nuts. I want to not worry about the distance but I am working up to a 3k by early december so I have to keep distance in mind. I just want to finish the race without stopping or walking, I dont care about winning or time.
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2010, 06:50:19 AM »

Is it possible you have exercise induced asthma?
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2010, 07:29:04 AM »

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Is it possible you have exercise induced asthma?

Gosh, don't suggest that...  Undecided I've long worried about this personally myself because I grew up in a house where my Mum smoked 50 cigarettes a day. I was totally crap at sports at school because of this, I think. I'd get breathless and dizzy and it would hurt to breathe.

I've moved out of home and things have improved a lot, I can run further than I used to and no longer get dizzy, but am hoping the distance problem is simply because I've been going too fast. I'm personally scared my lungs are wrecked from my childhood.

My brother has asthma, as a kid it was a lot worse until 2 triggers were found - the smoke, obviously, and also the chlorine in the local swimming pool. Once he moved out of home and stopped going swimming I don't think he even needs to use his "puffer" anymore. He now goes running, but I don't know how far he gets.

Anyway. Sorry to butt in. Just a thought.
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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2010, 10:05:43 AM »

Is it possible you have exercise induced asthma?

Good call mate! thats what we thought too! I have been tested and all of that junk. No one smokes and i stay away from chlorine because it makes my sinuses flair up. I think my body needs to just suck it up and get over it because my legs and feet want more. Wink
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