Comment from: Michael [Visitor]
Michael

gotta say, i really like the look of these shoes... and i trust the source seeing as how Post used to work at Vibram... i think it's a good move because these look like a cross between vibram fivefingers and new balance minimus (or other close toed minimalist shoes)... i want to try them!

01/16/13 @ 12:56
Comment from: Randy [Visitor]
Randy

I was just thinking about tabi-styled running shoes like the Zems and Born 2 Runs while running the other night. Now that the Topos are set to "drop" this summer, I think I'll have to start saving up. Any word on pricing?

01/16/13 @ 13:29
Comment from: sina [Visitor]
sina

01/16/13 @ 14:09
Comment from: admin [Member]  

@Randy

Meant to include that -- it's $100 for RT, $110 for RX, and $130 for RR (projected anyway).

01/16/13 @ 14:31
Comment from: Dan [Visitor]
Dan

The only reason I would see a need to get this is when I do Crossfit. Otherwise, I will stick to my VFF during warm season and Merrell's during cold.

They are pretty neat looking shoes though, but I couldn't warrant buying another pair until I run through the 5 pairs of VFFs that I have, and I already have Inov-8s for Crossfit.

01/16/13 @ 14:53
Comment from: Aaron R. [Visitor]
Aaron R.

So, which one is the racing model and which is the more all around running model?

They look great. I am eager to see a side-by-side comparison with the Born 2 Run shoes.

I hope these are as flexible as other new models coming out in the next few months.

01/16/13 @ 15:12
Comment from: K.A. Green-Wall [Visitor]
K.A. Green-Wall

That depends:  On the one hand, I kind of like the overall look; on the other, unless they're available in my (increasingly hard-to-find) size, they really don't do me much good.

Also, the color schemes all look a bit...well, neon.

01/16/13 @ 17:10
Comment from: Cody R. [Visitor]
Cody R.

a bit pricey, but i do like them, except all that eva is a turn off

if the RR just had a 3mm outsole, with a removable 3mm insole and no midsole, i'd be sold, since i could just save the insole for a colder day, if it even got that cold, and i'd be flying

01/16/13 @ 17:41
Comment from: pooch [Visitor]
pooch

I have ALWAYS loved the tabi-styled shoes, having been fascinated with Japanese culture half my life. I used to wear tabi socks with my geta sandals back in high school (and once in a blue moon, still do).

Then, when researching good footwear for the gym, I came across the Nike Air Rift (this was years back), and started a torrid love affair with them (I still have over 20 pairs). From them, as they were huge in the UK and was on a forum for Rifts, I learned of Vibrams, and my second-ever pair was imported from England about 5 years ago. I have been into minimalist shoes ever since.

I still rock the Rifts every so often [at work], but the extra cushioning and not zero drop gets to me after all-day usage (hooray for minimalist-trained feet!). I am very much looking forward to these!! Especially the RX - love that green!

01/16/13 @ 19:08
Comment from: Lyonel [Visitor]
Lyonel

Why are the models shown running doing it with such bad form?!?
Make me lose interest completely...

01/17/13 @ 08:50
Comment from: admin [Member]  

@Lyonel,

Can you really judge running form based on these photos?

Guy looks like he's sprinting to me, which makes for a more aggressive form.

Regardless, seems like a pretty arbitrary reason to lose interest in the shoes.

01/17/13 @ 10:09
Comment from: ACC [Visitor]
ACC

How are they better than ZEM's?

Nike's Air Rift never really caught on

01/17/13 @ 14:23
Comment from: woody! [Visitor]
woody!

amazing futuristic look!
but the upper is made from too many seperated sections.
yes, they are heat
welded and all but when it comes to
PERFORMANCE shoes, as a manufacturer,
you should made the upper with the minimum possible intersections.
but who knows?
will never know how these perform till i lay my feet on a pair.....
..... i want the mr-x model!!!!

01/17/13 @ 17:31
Comment from: Mark [Visitor]
Mark

Well I have to say after reading about all the hype...I am a bit disappointed, this is a Nike Rift knock off with laces. Having spent a number of years at Nike, I am sure they have a number of design patents around the Rift (that has been in production for years) and a cease and desist letter might be in the mail. Say good by to that 5M they just received in VC funding...someone did not do their due diligence.

01/17/13 @ 18:57
Comment from: Chad Cahoy [Visitor]
Chad Cahoy

As a Crossfitter and runner that wears Vibrams for my WODs I'd love to give the RX models a shot.. I've turned away from the Fila and Adidas toe shoes, but these are intriguing. If they're sending out testing units I'll volunteer to be the guinea pig.

01/18/13 @ 08:00
Comment from: Lyonel [Visitor]
Lyonel

@Justin

Clearly his foot is in front of his body when touching down.

I don't like it when things are shot so that it looks better on camera while throwing out the ABC of natural running.
Gives me immediatly the feeling that they don't know what they are doing.

01/18/13 @ 09:07
Comment from: Lyonel [Visitor]
Lyonel

Statement like these don't help either:

Post admitted that Topo trainers should be easier to sell, versus the FiveFingers product Vibram pioneered. “Let’s face it, nobody wanted to buy those shoes,” he said. “We had to break in the market.”

and,

Kossow noted, “Half the battle in this industry, which is so competitive, is that the channel needs to buy. But you need pull through from the consumer side. Because Tony [Post] has been at bat a few times and has the Midas touch, we think the channel and the consumer will be interested in anything he brings to market.”

http://stream.wsj.com/story/latest-headlines/SS-2-63399/SS-2-120891/

01/18/13 @ 09:21
Comment from: admin [Member]  

@Lyonel,

I get everything you're saying. I still disagree you can definitively assess running form via these still photos, but I won't argue the point.

My point is this: every reason you've cited for losing interest in the shoes has nothing to do with the shoes, themselves, and everything to do with:

- marketing
- quotes

Are you saying you're only interested in shoes that are marketed correctly?

FiveFingers weren't marketed for running yet they're great for running -- applying the same frame to Vibrams as you do to Topo would mean that you should have no interest in FiveFingers.

See my point?

The marketing doesn't make the shoes work (nor do shoes that work make for good marketing, I guess). In either case, we don't really know if these are good shoes or not.

01/18/13 @ 10:59
Comment from: Richard F [Visitor]
Richard F

The fabric looks just like the same stuff on the new Minimum line that wears through in two months, I hope that's not the case otherwise, these are gonna be a bust.

01/18/13 @ 11:21
Comment from: Lyonel [Visitor]
Lyonel

I am saying that if it smells like $#!t it probably is $#!t

And there's a difference in making things look good in a bad way or not exploiting all the legit possibilities.

01/18/13 @ 12:47
Comment from: admin [Member]  

@Lyonel,

I know what you're saying; I just find it's flawed logic ... a sort of mix of arguments that amount to hasty generalizations and poisoning the well.

I've yet to hear an argument based on what we know now about the shoes that suggests Topos are dead on arrival.

01/18/13 @ 14:22
Comment from: Fred Chan [Visitor]
Fred Chan

These shoes look like hooves!

01/20/13 @ 23:12
Comment from: Ben Priest [Visitor]
Ben Priest

Definitely interested.. curious to see how the first generation fairs and what tweaks they'll give to the second. I wonder if they'll go more minimal with the outsole or stick with the denser stuff as compared to the Vibram 5F's..

01/21/13 @ 00:55
Comment from: Nik [Visitor]
Nik

As a VFF fan, ToPo gets a lot of upfront credit from me.

That these would be better than normal running shoes - sure. Lots of thought went into them.

However what I want to know why the two-toed design is better than the 5 toed design of the VFFs?

That the soles are much thicker than VFF soles is also not something that excites me. I love my original VFFs with the thin soles - I have an invisible 6th sense on my feet! It seems like these would not provide similar feedback.

On the surface, going from 5 back to 2 seems like a step back. Maybe an admission that the world is not ready for mass adoption of 5 toed shoes? I get funny looks all around - some people just love them, others hate them. I don't care either way - I think the only reason people think they're strange is that they're not used to it. And well the garish color schemes on most of the VFF range must be a definite turn-off too... it's as if even the VFF makers think they look strange?!

Does VFF have a patent on 5 toes?

03/28/13 @ 10:37
Comment from: alex [Visitor]
alex

I'm a little late to this party, but I felt the need to comment when I saw that the RR was going to have a boa lace system. I have a pair of Redwing work boots that use the system and I love it, so simple to tighten to the desired fit and take back off again. I do get funny looks if for some reason I have to adjust them cause the clicking draws attention.

05/01/13 @ 19:28
Comment from: HeadDoc [Visitor]
HeadDoc

Don't forget Olukai. I have their split-toe shoe (marketed as a kind of amphibious multi-purpose shoe), and love them for running.

05/16/13 @ 13:16
Comment from: andrea [Visitor]
andrea

when do they come out?!

06/27/13 @ 13:36