Comment from: Bill Solomon [Visitor]  
Bill Solomon

I just received my Pah Tempe sandals this week (one pair with the 6mm sole and the another with the 4mm sole, both with the 1mm EVA footbed) and was extremely disappointed to discover that the straps on both sandals are anchored to the TOP of the footbed (about 2-3mm from the edge), not the sides. The straps severely cut into the available room on both sides of my feet (big toe and pinky). Specifically, the strap rubs against the big toe, and there is a plastic buckle that anchors the outside front strap that rubs just below the pinky toe, ala 1990's Teva's.

It's as if Unshoes sent me the pre-2014 model, back before the straps became anchored on the sides.

This is my first time to order the Pah Tempe, but I would strongly suggest that everyone be extremely cautious about purchasing these sandals.

07/11/15 @ 12:29
Comment from: jarvis [Member]  

Bill,

That is very strange, as the anchor points should be exactly as you see them in this review.

In my experience, Unshoes owner, Terral Fox, has been very responsive to emails and demonstrates a lot of passion with his sandals and running.

I would highly suggest that you email him directly and he will certainly find an amicable solution for you.

-Jarvis

07/13/15 @ 09:35
Comment from: Bill Solomon [Visitor]  
Bill Solomon

Jarvis,

I actually did speak to Unshoes this week, and they confirmed that the Pah Tempe design has changed over the last few weeks due to complaints that the side-based anchor points were coming loose. So Unshoes has chosen to move the anchor points back to the top of the footbed, as was the case in previous models.

However, when I asked Unshoes if they would make my Pah Tempes with the side-based anchor points, they said that yes, they still have the equipment in place to do that.

So I am mailing my Pah Tempes back to them for an exchange.

So that solution should work for me. For others who may be placing new orders, you might consider asking specifically for the side-based anchor points.

Thanks,
Bill

07/15/15 @ 09:31
Comment from: jarvis [Member]  

Bill,

That is unfortunate as I really liked the full use of real estate on the sole of the Pah Tempe. In my hundreds of road and trail miles, I have never experienced an durability issue or any loosening of the straps.

The Unshoes website does not reflect any new changes, nor does their blog.

I'll look into it and will comment later. Thank you so much for letting us know!

-Jarvis

07/15/15 @ 12:54
Comment from: Terral Fox [Visitor]  
Terral Fox

Bill,
First of all, I apologize that you received something that you were not expecting! This was my fault as I told our production team to go ahead and I had planned on photographing the changes. However, we lost our production manager so I had to take over his responsibilities and start the hiring process. Then shortly thereafter, my wife went into labor early. I was preoccupied and dropped the ball on anything that wasn't urgent priority.

We did change the strap attachment configuration just slightly. However, it is not at all the same as how it used to be. The straps are attached exactly the same way but only slightly inward. The way they are attached makes the straps angle out just like they were before. If you happen to step on the straps at all it doesn't cause discomfort like our old rivet system did. There is still a large amount of "real estate" on the sole. We still have our variety of templates to accommodate people with different shaped feet.

The reasons for the change were mostly a durability issue as mentioned. The problem was that the straps coming out of the side created a small opening for dirt and other debris to get into. Even with a slight opening, it made the two layers more susceptible to peeling apart. In most cases, it wasn't a problem but we did see room for improvement. It was more of a problem for those using the sandals for hiking, river rafting, etc. Now the sole/footbed is sealed all the way around the sandal it makes them stronger and more durable.

If the straps cut into your foot so badly, I have some doubts that having a pair of our old design will completely solve your problem. I'll talk to our customer service so we can work through any sizing issues that you might have. I might suggest trying out our template 6 (I saw that you have a template 1). I saw that you also purchased a pair of Wokovas. Do they have the same fit issues?

07/16/15 @ 00:16
Comment from: Mike Westra [Visitor]  
Mike Westra

Hi Jarvis,

I've kinda had my eye on the Pah Tempe after your review last year. Do you have any advice on which sole to pick? I'm a road runner, and my main concern is that I don't have any slapping.

Much appreciated!

Mike

07/24/15 @ 21:55
Comment from: jarvis [Member]  

Mike,

Personally, I like both soles ("suction cup" and "star"). The suction cup is thicker and has better traction, while the star is smoother and lighter.

You really can't go wrong with either one and this choice should be based upon what is your favorite stack height. If you prefer thinner, go with the star. Need more protection? Suction cup!

The suction cup is still smooth enough for road running, but is less flexible.

07/25/15 @ 11:34
Comment from: Brimstone [Visitor]
Brimstone

I got a pair of PT Sleeks a couple of months ago and really like a lot of things about them including the materials and the semi-custom sizing system. However, I can't seem to keep my foot from sliding forward to the point that my toes are off the front of the soles and there is an inch or more of space behind my heel. NO matter how I adjust them. Anyone else have a problem like that? I'm beginning to think a "Teva" style lace system is better for toe-postless minimalist sandals than a "Chaco" style system.

08/11/15 @ 00:19
Comment from: jarvis [Member]  

Brim,

The PT utilizes an "infinite" loop strap system, which basically has a single strap zig-zagging along your entire foot. What happens is that once you tighten the straps, they eventually even out the tension around the entire foot.

This is different from terminal straps, which have an end-point and you can tighten individual sections (think chaco's with velcro straps).

What you can do is tighten the straights more than you would consider comfortable, and then after running or walking a bit, they will eventually spread the tension across the entire sandal.

For an alternative, the Amuri Z-Trek DOES have terminal straps. Check out my review for more information. The only issue is that the sizing of the Z-Trek is a single shape and does not allow for custom sizing.

08/12/15 @ 07:56
Comment from: Mike DeAto [Visitor]  
Mike DeAto

Hey Jarvis!

Do you have any experience with the Unshoes Uinta or Bedrocks Cairn? I love the design and look of the Pah Tempe Sleek but I prefer sandals that have a toe post to give just a little more security. I'm looking for a pretty rugged, secure hiking sandal.

Also, how would you say the Pah Tempe Sleek performs in that respect (staying secure)? I would hate to have my foot slide forwards often when wearing them!

Thanks,

Mike

03/16/17 @ 17:14
Comment from: jarvis [Member]  

Hey Mike!

I have not tried the Cairn, but they should be similar to the Shamma Mountan Goats in terms of thickness. I am actually not a fan of having such thick sandals, even for tough terrain. I much prefer to be more technical and careful with my footing.

I highly recommend the Mountain Goats. They are very supportive and the toe post is great!

If you check out previous reviews of Bedrock sandals, you should be able to get some idea of the Cairn's performance, so Bedrock Sandals all share similar design elements, but with slightly different platforms.

The Pah Tempe Sleek is also very secure, but I prefer the standard Pah Tempe with its wider straps; very rugged. Your foot may slide a bit, but its momentum and weight is spread across multiple anchor points. With this design, you have the really good downward control. I prefer it over a toepost, actually.

The more your foot presses forward with the Pah Tempe, the more the multiple straps press back, distributing throughout the full length of the strap. There is more surface area and friction than a toepost, for sure.

Justin and I tried the Uinta last year, but they did not fit our feet well and we decided not to publish a review. I think a narrower foot would do well. I loved the easy on-and-off clasp though.

You should definitely give the Pah Tempe a try!

-Jarvis

03/16/17 @ 21:57