Doing the Ultimate Hike in FiveFingers - Help Alejandra Out!

Doing the Ultimate Hike in FiveFingers - Help Alejandra Out!

The following is a guest post by Alejandra Aldana

On May 4, 2013, I will be participating in Ultimate Hike, a 28.3 mile hike benefiting CureSearch for Children's Cancer. My goal is to not only complete this very long hike in one day, but also help raise awareness and $2500 in funds for CureSearch.

CureSearch for Children's Cancer, a National Childhood Cancer Foundation, funds and supports targeted and innovative children's cancer research with measurable results, and is the authoritative source of information and resources for all those affected by children's cancer. CureSearch funds both local and national research, ensuring that a cure will be found as quickly as possible.

I have decided to take this challenge for a number of reasons. I want the opportunity to help give back to those affected by cancer as well as improve my life and fitness. Part of what I hope to accomplish other than raising funds for children in need is becoming part of a community and pushing my boundaries.

I plan on completing the 28.3 miles completely in my Vibram Five Fingers and while many people are advising me against it, I just don't see myself doing it without them. It is going to take a lot of building my feet up, but I am more than confident I will be able to do so. If you are able to donate to my fundraising that would be great. If not that will be fine, too. What I would love to get out of this, is the opportunity to share my journey with others. There is nothing more powerful and exhilarating than a sense of community for a great cause. If you are interested in joining me on my minimalist journey please let me know as soon as possible (we have already started our first training session). If you would like to help follow and share me and my cause you can do so at 10littlepiggies.tumblr.com.

You can also donate directly by following this link.

Thanks again for your support and encouragement!

Hiking, Walking, Running, and Playing in Vibram Five Fingers Classics and Flows

Andrew plays with his dog in the kitchen in his Classic Vibram Five Fingers (in black)
Andrew plays with his dog in the kitchen in his Classic Vibram Five Fingers (in black)
Enjoying a bit of snow between the toes in his Classics, Andrew snaps a shot of a rose.
Enjoying a bit of snow between the toes in his Classics, Andrew snaps a shot of a rose.
Hiking in Vibram Five Fingers Flows, Andrew snaps a shot over some rocky terrain.
Hiking in Vibram Five Fingers Flows, Andrew snaps a shot over some rocky terrain.

Andrew Harwood sent in the above photos showing off his Vibram Five Fingers collection (black Classics and Flows). I asked Andrew to share a bit about what he's been doing in his VFFs and what he likes about them. Here is what he had to say:

I have three pair of Vibram. Two of them are black classics (one busted and I replaced it with a new pair but then fixed the broke pair) and a pair of flows.

I like the comfort of them. They feel so natural. If and when I wear normal shoes, my first instinct is to take them off when I get home. They aren't comfortable and it is always hard to find a pair of shoes that fit just right and feel good. With my VFF I keep them on no matter where I am (house, running, around work, school, etc). I also like them because when I run I can feel the ground that I am running on. I have a more keen sense of my running pattern. This is a good thing because it helps me to work on my running form. As a teen I did some running and my knees would always hurt after a long day of walking and running. I walk an average of about 5 miles a day and haven't felt my knees hurt at all. It is because I am more likely to walk mid foot or flat foot. Also, when I run, I run fore-foot (or am trying to). The shoes definitely help in my efforts. Even after running my knees don't hurt. I also like how easy they are to put on. Starting out it is a pain in the butt, but after about 8 months of using them I was able to put them on handless. Now after a year, it is somewhat like sliding my foot into slippers.

I also love how the shoes are a great conversation starter. So many funny faces and questions about them. It is great because I love talking to people but never know how to start the conversation.

You didn't ask if there was anything that I don't like. There is something I don't like and that is the smell that takes place after a week or so. I have found great ideas to take care of the smell from your forum.

I mostly walk in them. I wear them literally everywhere. I boxed up all of my old shoes and exclusively wear VFF. The only time I wear anything else is when I am in the pulpit and that is for a hour (dress shoes that I literally keep at the office under my desk). I am an assistant pastor. Outside of running I do all kinds of things. I will play ultimate frisbee in them. On the weekends I will go hike a mountain of about 3-5 miles. I run/walk the dog all the time. I put a lot of miles on my shoes. I put a lot of pressure on my feet and my feet take it so much better than my knees. I have really strengthened the arch in my foot.

Thanks for sharing, Andrew! Though some might find it curious, being able to put on Classic Vibram Five Fingers without hands is a great skill to acquire — really saves time in a pinch. And if you're looking for the aforementioned forum thread, you can read all about the various methods of Vibram Five Fingers stink removal here.

Do go and check out Andrew's blog over at The Remains of a Living and note he has a page dedicated to VFF photos.

Floating in the Dead Sea in KSO Vibram Five Fingers

Krisjand is snaps a photo while floating in the Dead Sea near Masada, Israel.  The concentration of salt in the Dead Sea is so great that buoyancy is no problem!
Krisjand is snaps a photo while floating in the Dead Sea near Masada, Israel. The concentration of salt in the Dead Sea is so great that buoyancy is no problem!

Vibram Five Fingers KSO wearer Krisjand was recently traveling around Israel and toured Masada, an ancient fortress and historic stronghold adjacent to the Dead Sea.

Armed, or shall I say "footed," with his black KSO VFFs, Krisjand took the opportunity to float in the Dead Sea, which is known for it's buoyancy due to it being a salt lake*.

I asked Krisjand to share a bit about his VFF'ed photo above as well as what he's been doing in his Five Fingers and here's what he had to say:

Justin,

Yeah, me and my friends were about 20-30 feet off shore in the photo. Couldn't get more than chest deep if we wanted. I'm glad I had my KSOs, since the banks were pretty mean with the salt crystals. Definitly saved my feet as compared to my buds.

I initially bought my KSOs after doing some reading about barefoot running. I had a knee injury and surgery to remove part of my meniscus. Took a little getting used to, but found them to be great for running either indoor or out-door (though gave me some mean blisters when tried on a treadmill). I wore them outside until it started to snow (though after it rained and iced, they gripped much better than my regular running shoes) and ran an indoor track. I found that they just go too cold once wet for winter here in Germany. I have also worn them as a scuba diving boot, worked pretty well. I plan to take them with me to Afghanistan here shortly and continue running in them. Let y'all know how they hold up.

Oh, and about a week after I started running in them, a guy in my office got a pair and now everyone in his family wants some. I think once people get past the look, they see how great they are.

Krisjand.

Thanks for sharing, Krisjand. It's good to hear you're putting your VFFs to such good use (and in so may ways). Congrats on running again despite the knee injury!

Have safe travels and enjoy spreading the Vibram word around the world!

* Per Wikipedia, "The salt concentration of the Dead Sea fluctuates around 31.5%. This is unusually high and results in a nominal density of 1.24 kg/L. Anyone can easily float in the Dead Sea because of natural buoyancy."

Vivo Barefoot Evo Barefoot Running Shoe Review

The Terra Plana Vivo Barefoot Evo Running Shoe - Just released in Spring 2010
The Terra Plana Vivo Barefoot Evo Running Shoe - Just released in Spring 2010

Guest post by Harry Hollines

The first day I received my Vivo Barefoot Evo’s, I did a 35 minute workout consisting of 15 minutes on the treadmill and 20 minutes outside, which included running in snow and on trails, pavement and concrete. The next day, I completed a good hard 10 mile progressive tempo run, taking my pace down to 6:20 per mile. Overall, I’d have to say the experience both days was awesome. I had a tough time controlling my speed because the Evo allowed me to run effortlessly.

What makes the Evo so great? Well, it is the fact that the Evo doesn’t do much and that’s the beauty. The Evo simply protects the foot and does not interfere with the natural functioning of the foot. The Evo did not interfere or alter the form, technique, and mechanics that I developed through barefoot running. Barefoot running teaches you to land on the ball of your foot with your leg slightly bent to absorb the strain and pressure while allowing the foot to naturally roll from the outside in, taking shorter steps with a light stride while maintaining good posture alignment (I landed so softly in the Evo’s that you couldn’t hear me coming).

In other words, the Evo lets the foot do the work which should be the ultimate goal for any company that develops footwear. To achieve this desired goal, the Evo provides no stabilization support, no arch support and no heel build-up (this is a perfect “zero drop” shoe). The design allows the Arch to act as the stabilization device for the foot as nature intended without undue pressure or stress on the ankle, Plantar muscle or Achilles tendon (I’ve suffered from recent Plantar Fasciitis and I had no PF pain in the Evo).

Photos of the Vivo Barefoot Evo running shoe

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Design & Performance of the Evo barefoot running shoe


The Evo has a sleek and cutting edge appearance, and is constructed well (even the lace outlets are durable). The Evo has a sleek mesh micro fiber upper constructed of TPU, with a 4mm of soft rubber cushioning on the sole providing enough protection for any surface including trail running. The design allows for breathability while also providing good warmth for colder temperatures (so far I used the Evo’s in 15F and my feet stayed toasty warm). The 4mm sole provides excellent ground feel and response time. The majority of the 8 oz. weight of the Evo rests in the sole with is very durable and puncture resistant.

The 8 oz. weight is a slight negative especially since I’m accustomed to running in 3.6 oz. racing shoes, so it took a few minutes to adjust to the extra weight but after 5 minutes, I completely forgot about the weight. Even at 8 oz., the Evo is still light enough to be categorized with racing shoes from the weight perspective. Overall, I describe the Evo as a very durable slipper to protect the feet, just as the legendary Gordon Pirie described as the perfect shoe:

The perfect running shoe should be something like a heavy-duty ballet slipper - simply an extra layer of protective material around the foot, like a glove. If you run correctly, you will be able to wear such a shoe and never be injured.

The Vivo Barefoot Evo Fit

The Evo provides a comfortable but not too tight fit. The toe box is sufficient for me with a medium “D” foot. My toes had enough room to move, breathe and grip as needed. The Evo is very flexible as you can bend the toe to the heel. However, one drawback due to the flexibility and micro fiber upper is that the upper pinched on one of my toes causing a small blister — nothing that major as a band-aid prevented any further issues with my run the next day.

Vivo Barefoot Evo Summary

Next to barefoot running, the Evo is the best footwear I’ve ever placed on my feet. The Evo, along with the Feelmax Osma and the soon-to-be-released Vibram Bikila, represent the first and only minimalist footwear specifically designed, from concept to design, for barefoot runners. Up until now, we barefoot runners would find footwear designed for other purposes and adopt them for running but now we have a few companies developing footwear specifically designed for us. Again, this is the beauty of the Evo as it is designed to not interfere with the natural functioning of the foot. This is a truly a case of “less is better.” I will be purchasing a 2nd pair shortly.

Pricing, Availability

The Achilles are available for $140 at retailers that carry Vivo Barefoot footwear or you can grab them online from VivoBarefoot.com.

About the authorHarry Hollines is a barefoot runner and active member in Barefoot Ted's Minimalist Runner Group. I asked Harry to share his initial experiences with the Evo for the Birthday Shoes community as many have inquired about the Evo, particularly in light of my recent review of the Vivo Barefoot Aqua. Check out Harry's blog My Tree of Life or connect with him on twitter @thexgen.

VFF Couple shows off the New 2010 Vibram Five Fingers KSO Color Combinations!

A photo of the black,grey, camouflage soled Vibram Five Fingers KSO for men (1 of 2)
A photo of the black,grey, camouflage soled Vibram Five Fingers KSO for men (1 of 2)
A photo of the agate, grey, camouflage soled Vibram Five Fingers KSO for women (2 of 2)
A photo of the agate, grey, camouflage soled Vibram Five Fingers KSO for women (2 of 2)
A photo of the black,grey, camouflage soled Vibram Five Fingers KSO for men (2 of 2)
A photo of the black,grey, camouflage soled Vibram Five Fingers KSO for men (2 of 2)
A photo of the agate, grey, camouflage soled Vibram Five Fingers KSO for women (1 of 2)
A photo of the agate, grey, camouflage soled Vibram Five Fingers KSO for women (1 of 2)

Above we see photos of the new 2010 camouflage Vibram Five Fingers KSO color combinations for men (black, grey, and camouflage) and women (Agate, grey, camouflage)!

Tabitha was excited to share these pictures with the BirthdayShoes community. Here is what she had to say:

We just got our new Vibram KSO's! I got them in the Agate/Grey/Camo and 'S' got them in the Black/Grey/Camo option. This is his first pair of Vibrams and my second(after wearing classics for 3 years). They are the best purchase I've made since I bought the classic in '07!

Great, Tabitha! And for anyone keeping watch, I've added the pictures of these new KSO color combinations to the Definitive Guide to KSO Vibram Five Fingers!

This is Not a Fad: You can Run Pain Free.

In addition to running in his VFFs, Dave kicks back in his Vibram Five Fingers KSO Treks while at work in Knoxville, Tennessee.
In addition to running in his VFFs, Dave kicks back in his Vibram Five Fingers KSO Treks while at work in Knoxville, Tennessee.

Guest post by Dave Parmly

From the design labs of Nike, Inc. to athletic shoe retailers to “fitness trainers," ripples of change are upsetting the conventional wisdom many of us grew up believing about the sport of running. New ideas have the potential to reduce running-related injuries and make the sport more accessible and enjoyable. One trendy new idea is the concept of barefoot running or “minimalist running.” Publicized in books like Born to Run by Christopher McDougall, featured in Runner’s World, Parade Magazine, Scientific American, and other media outlets, the return to our less-padded past is generating a lot of buzz.

As a father of three, I caution my family to avoid fads, “crazes,” and trends that promise much but deliver less. I’m a skeptic and I admit it. It was with skepticism that I looked at barefoot/minimalist running. I’ve been running in Army combat boots or expensive running shoes for 30 years. In my mid-20s, I was logging 6-minute miles, 60 to 75 miles a week, and running half-marathons regularly. After leaving the military, the miles dropped but I was a regular, habitual runner. Right up until five years ago, when I was forced by chronic pain to stop running completely.

A runner in pain, a runner no more ...


For 20 years, I was a runner in pain. It started at age 25, with nagging knee pain from Osgood-Schlatter disease. I kept running, but it wasn’t easy. You name it, I experienced it: plantar fasciitis, shin splints, and knees that swelled after a run, and sounded like sand paper with every stair step. I just popped Ranger M&Ms (Motrin), laced ‘em up and went back out. Many of you share my addiction, the call of the road. At 40, I went to a running specialist, got videoed, measured, and coached. I changed my stride, bought new shoes every 500 to 600 miles, tried rubberized tracks and springy treadmills. Sometimes it improved, but always the behind-the-knee swelling, not painful, indicated something wasn’t right. Finally, when the swelling persisted for days, not hours, after even a short treadmill run, I knew I had to stop. So at age 45, right as my metabolism was settling in for retirement, I took away the only regular exercise I knew.

An ex-Army buddy turned me on to CrossFit, a general fitness concept that does not emphasize distance running. CrossFit worked my metabolism, built strength, and got me back in shape. But when the Workout of the Day (the "WOD") called for any distance running at all, I substituted something else. I was off the running market for good, I thought.

A fortuitous "pose" — rediscovering running


One evening I watched an online lecture clip about “POSE Running,” a style of running that completely removed the shin/knee/hip strain inflicted by most conventional running styles, which are permissible only because of the heavily padded shoes most people wear. POSE running emphasizes shorter strides and landing on the forefoot, with the body kept vertical over the feet and hips.

The coach in the video demonstrated the pounding the heels sustain as our running mass lands on that bone at the back of the foot. No matter how much you pad it, no matter how often you change your running shoes, when you run with a heel-strike your heels are hammered by forces they were not designed to sustain. Only modern running shoes, with their heavily padded heels permit this ultimately self-destructive running style.

One evening, while walking the dog, I decided to see if I could try a little of this POSE running. I was wearing old, split at the sides New Balance cross trainers. I only went for a little 1/8 mile jog, coming down on my forefoot, keeping my heel off the ground. I slowed to a walk, a little winded. “Wow, that really does strain the calf,” I thought. Forty-eight hours later delayed onset muscle soreness ("DOMS") caught me. Yow! My calves were tight as drums. Still, I noticed none of the knee swelling I used to get after even the shortest run. Interesting. After a few days, I took the dog out again and tried the same running style, but ran a little longer, maybe a 1/4 mile this time. A little less soreness in the calves but no knee pain or swelling.

After that, I went to the internet to learn all I could about forefoot running, POSE technique, and the advantages it offers to runners of all types. After some weeks of warming up and gradually increasing distances, I was back, a runner once again.

I rarely ran more than three miles, and a 10 minute-mile is my plodding pace. But I was running. And it didn’t matter that I ran in old, broken down New Balances. The forefoot strike and the arch of the foot provided all the padding I needed. But I was running pain-free for the first time in 24 years. I was a believer.

Still, I looked at my shoes and noted a lot of unneeded rubber and nylon. I dug deeper into “back to the basics” running and found the concept of barefoot running (BFR) and minimalist running (MR). The idea is simple: run with nothing on our feet except what we were born with, or as close to that as possible, eschewing the padding, heel cups, wicking fabrics, micro chips and laces. The runner lands lightly on the forefoot and quickly pulls the foot high off the ground so it can descend down, landing under the hips, cushioning the strike with the wonderful mechanical function in the arched foot of homo erectus.

In Born to Run Christopher McDougall describes the physiological characteristics of humans, apart from all species, to run for long distances. McDougall states that we are made to operate efficiently without “running shoes” and did so for a long time. He notes that Roger Bannister broke the 4-minute mile in shoes that resembled ballet slippers, with no heel or any padding. Bannister was also injury free his whole running career.

Discovering the barefoot alternative — Vibram Five Fingers


One day, while browsing through my favorite adult toy store, River Sports Outfitters on Sutherland, I noticed an odd-looking combination of a glove and a shoe. The sales associate said “Oh, those are called the Vibram Five Fingers. They’re pretty new.” They have a rubber sole that mimics the natural arch of the foot, with no padding, and five separate pockets for each toe. “What do you do in these,” I asked. “Oh, anything you’d normally do. Some people run in them.” I interrupted, “People run in these things?” Most certainly, I was told. He explained that the foot really isn’t used to working as it was designed because we “support it” so much, so the muscles and tendons are a little sore when you start wearing them all the time, but they are good for any activity you would otherwise wear shoes. Standing with a V5F in hand, I realized that I was already close to being able to run in these. I bought a pair of Sprints, went home, sat down and put on my new shoes.

First impressions


A word of caution: People respond quite strongly to their first sight of a pair of Vibram 5 Fingers (V5Fs). My wife and teenage kids were no exception. “WHAT ARE THOSE ON YOUR FEET?” was the incredulous reaction. I explained the concept, showed the features, the cool colors. They were an eye-catching blue camo on the bottom ... very cool. “Well, just don’t wear them when you’re with me," was the caution I got. Even my wife, used to me coming home with some goofy things, was less than impressed.

On the other hand, the response from the ladies at the check-out line at Wal-Mart was quite strong! They were vocally curious about them, wanting to see me kick something to show if they really protected the toe ... fortunately, they did! Sideways glances and double-takes told me many people were not prepared for the sight of “hobbit feet” as a friend of mine called them. Truth to tell, it was his wife that called them that, as she forbade him from ever wearing shoes as ugly as V5Fs. “She’s a sad, narrow-minded woman,” I kidded my friend. He just shrugged. So not everyone was impressed.

But when I ran in them, my feet were very impressed! As I have learned by explaining to so many curious people, the difference between V5Fs and shoes is like the difference between wearing mittens and wearing gloves. Gloves allow your hand and fingers to work in a synchronized but independent manner. Mittens ask the fingers to move as a homogenous whole. If you spent most of your time doing everything with mittens on, it’s logical to assume many of the muscles and tendons would become underused, or would become habituated to limited ranges of motion and exertion. The transition from "foot mittens" to "foot gloves" caused my feet to ache a little at first, but the more I wore them at home, and especially on runs, the more my feet learned to be ... well, feet again. And the soreness disappeared. Though I began with one mile runs, it wasn’t long before I was back to three and four miles, three days a week. And no sore feet.

Most importantly, I was running those distances with a complete absence of any joint or ligament discomfort! No shin splints, no twinge of fasciitis, no pain and, for the first time since I was 24 years old, no swelling behind the knee at the end of a run. Do my calf muscles occasionally ache after a hard run? Sure, but muscle ache is normal, natural and not a bad thing in exercise. Joint and ligament pain is a sign of trouble, and I was finally running with none of that.

What do you do in those?


For the holidays, our family went to Walt Disney World, and over the next 5 days, I decided that V5Fs are the best conversation piece ever. I was often stopped by people asking where I got my shoes. The 2 most common questions I heard are: “Are those shoes comfortable?” and/or “Where did you get those shoes?” And how did my feet feel at the end of a 12-hour day pounding the pavement in the Vacation Capitol of the World? Just fine, thanks. No more tired than they would have been in any other shoes.

Another question is “So, what do you do in those?” I resist the urge to say “Um, I walk. What do you do in your shoes?” The answer is that I pretty much wear them everywhere except work and church. In the summer, I hope my pastor is a forgiving person because they’ll be in the pews! ANYTHING you would normally do in shoes, you can do in V5Fs.

Wrapping up — the family gets in on the VFF action


A runner who struggles with chronic or persistent pain during or after running should take a look at the concepts behind POSE/Forefoot running. Barefoot running becomes a next logical step for some (not all) who deal with chronic joint pain from running. Wearing Vibram 5 Fingers puts your foot in a shoe that will not allow you to run in a way that hurts your body. The discomfort of landing on an un-padded heel will force you to either stop the run or switch to a forefoot strike. The Big Shoe manufacturers like Nike are introducing shoes intended to mimic barefoot running. Other manufacturers are rushing similar models through testing and will be on the market soon.

What about that advice I give my kids about not giving in to the latest fad? I guess, like teen-agers everywhere, it’s in one ear and out the other. The day we returned home from Disney World, my oldest son and his girlfriend went straight to River Sports Outfitters and bought Vibram 5 Fingers, KSO’s for him and Sprints for her. Matching colors, of course. The other day, I was looking for my Classics at the end of the day. Funny ... I left them right here. Then my younger son walked in the door, back from a 3 mile run…wearing my Classics. “They work pretty good, dad. Can I get a pair?” And my wife? She wants a pair just so “I can be like you and have conversations with total strangers.” Okay, so they ignored my advice about trends ... but they did take my advice on getting back to the basics in foot wear. One out of two? I’ll take that, any day!

About the author —

Dave Parmly is an over-the-hill Benefits & HR manager who lives in Knoxville, Tennessee. He owns V5F Sprints, Classics and KSOs ... so far. He hasn’t quite forgotten what he was able to do as a young soldier and keeps trying new things that keep him active, fit and in the out-of-doors. He has converted most of his family to V5Fs. Dave oversees his companies medical benefits plan and is passionate about practical, healthy living because it saves money! Dave graduated from the University of Florida with a history degree — he has ZERO education, certifications or job experience in exercise physiology, nutrition or sports science, but hasn’t let that stop him from sounding like he does!

VFF Noob Buys his First Pair of Vibram Five Fingers (black Classics)

This is me the day I got my all black classics.  I'm VFF noob in the forum.  I thought my canine companion Amy would make a good backdrop.  They take a little getting used to but I am liking them more and more and getting them on is getting a lot easier.
"This is me the day I got my all black classics. I'm VFF noob in the forum. I thought my canine companion Amy would make a good backdrop. They take a little getting used to but I am liking them more and more and getting them on is getting a lot easier."

Above we see Guy's first pair of Vibram Five Fingers Classics in black. I asked Guy — "VFF noob" on the forums — to share his experience getting his first pair of "barefoot shoes" as I think it's fun and informative for Vibram veterans to remember back to the not-so-distant past, one in which the novelty of foot gloves was still fresh.

Below is what Guy had to share on picking a Vibram Five Fingers style, his buying experience, and how his feet have broken in to his new minimalist shoes:

Initially I was torn between getting classics or KSOs. I kind of hoped to buy locally in case I had any problems as it seems more than a couple people have sizing or product defect issues. I found a store to at least try some on and the only thing they had in my size were blue camo KSOs. I liked the feel but wanted a more casual color scheme. I called around and no one had any black KSOs or classics in stock.

I started checking online and GSS didn't have either KSOs or classics in black in my size, only the KSO treks. Even Vibram was out of stock on black KSOs. I broke down and bought my all black classics directly from Vibram in the same size, M41, that I had tried on in blue camo KSOs.

They arrived pretty quickly, I think I ordered them on the 11th or 12th and they arrived the morning of the 16th. When I first put them on they were pretty snug and I was worried that I had fallen prey to the black classics/KSOs sizing issue. My toes weren't ramming the ends of the toe pockets but definitely touching them. I found that my heel wasn't sitting back all the way which was forcing my toes a little too deep into their pockets.

Another thing was that the seam on the inside bottom edge of my big toes was kind of bulky (where the yellow microfiber footbed is stitched in) and hits about 1/3rd of the way in on the bottom of either big toe. It made me wonder if I have especially fat toes or something but I believe they are just average. This was especially uncomfortable on my right foot at first but it seems to have faded completely away although we'll see how it goes once I go for a long walk in them or something. I have read about people trimming excess fabric and although I don't particularly care for the idea of that but I guess we'll see.

The more I've worn them the more comfortable they have become and the more I forget that I'm even wearing them at all. It's been a little too chilly here in Central Oklahoma to wear them outside much. Wearing them at work isn't particularly comfortable as the flooring is all tile or concrete and the balls of my feet don't care for it at all. I played with my dog in my yard a bit yesterday and the first time I tried to really dig in and chase her both my ankles seemed to scream "WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO US!" I guess I've been a little too inactive over the winter :-) (cold weather and no warm-up whatsoever probably didn't help matters).

I hope to get some KSOs or KSO Treks in the near future for some hiking and more active stuff.

Thanks, Guy! I think you'll find that in time the Classics will get more and more comfortable. I'm not sure if it's your feet that are breaking in to the feel of Classic Five Fingers (or VFFs generally) or it's the Classic Vibrams breaking in to your feet, but I find that though Classics may not initially blow your mind in comfort, over time, they feel less and less "on" your foot, which makes your foot feel more and more barefoot!

Also, I think you'll find that as you walk in them on hard surfaces, your gait will adjust so that you don't pound the ground: when you're close to barefoot, you have to walk more gently.

Thanks for sharing your Vibram newbie perspective with us, Guy! We've all been there.