Comment from: Jay [Visitor]
Jay

Does anyone have the weight for these socks? Thanks!

04/03/12 @ 11:39
Comment from: Mike M [Visitor]
Mike M

I was intrigued until I read the price. I know ground feel is incredibly important to some... but it isn't a huge feature for me (I want some ground feel, sure... but I don't care if it is perfect). I just can't imagine these socks being as durable as VFFs or other minimalist shoes, which (if you do some homework and buy when you can find a discount) will cost the same as these.

Interesting concept, but waaaaaay too expensive.

Mike
therunningdaddy.blogspot.com

04/03/12 @ 12:15
Comment from: Mr. Leigh [Visitor]
Mr. Leigh

These just don't do anything for me aesthetically. Also, if one was wearing them for summertime, do they really need to be so tall? It seems to me a nice ankle cut would suffice. I am sure some of you will shutter at the mere mention of this, however if they are meant to be the only foot covering, couldn't a mono-toed design also work? I wear VFFs and have no issues with them, but I cannot get used to wearing toe socks no matter how hard I try. I wear all of my VFFs sock-less. Even though these are not for me, thanks for the thorough review.

04/03/12 @ 12:22
Comment from: Juggling Mike [Visitor]
Juggling Mike

I think these would be really interesting for slack lining. The terrain under my slack line is not always smooth and clean, so these could be very helpful. I would definitely get a pair if they were cheaper.

04/03/12 @ 13:20
Comment from: Peter [Visitor]
Peter

That's all well and good, but ... when you're wearing them it looks like you're wearing your socks outside.

Sure, plenty of people think that FFs looks goofy, but I can get over that because I still think they look cool. I couldn't say the same for these.

04/03/12 @ 13:44
Comment from: Sean [Visitor]
Sean

I would be interested in these...however I do not like how high on the leg they go. I notice on their site there is a ankle version...but only in US sizes 4.5-5.5. If they make the ankle sock in a bigger size, I'd bite.

04/03/12 @ 14:09
Comment from: Ingo Q. [Visitor]
Ingo Q.

I would be happy to get this socks without toes - a normal sock with the same sole.

Maybe you can give this idea to the manufacturer.

I do not like Toe socks - they are too difficult to put on in my eyes. (I am wearing VFF KSO).

04/03/12 @ 14:29
Comment from: Tab [Visitor]  
Tab

How do you think these would hold up to climbing trees or large boulders? Do they feel secure on you foot or would they slide like a normal sock?

04/03/12 @ 15:10
Comment from: GrimReeper [Visitor]
GrimReeper

It is a shame about them not being puncture resistant. I went for a short run in my injinji's and about 200m after I started I stepped on a tiny thorn which was painful but it didn't puncture my skin which was cool. I'd love to give these a try but the price seems a little high.

04/03/12 @ 21:50
Comment from: Dieter Hesch [Visitor]  
Dieter Hesch

Question:
"How do you think these would hold up to climbing trees or large boulders? Do they feel secure on you foot or would they slide like a normal sock? "

We used them for that and they hold quite well and in fact they do only minimally slide if you wear the right size.

04/04/12 @ 10:47
Comment from: Dieter Hesch [Visitor]
Dieter Hesch

In fact the 5- toe sock is the principal construction of the Swiss Protection Sock. Without the 5 toe it would not have the characteristic we had in mind for their use.
They are easy to wear, no worry about that.

04/04/12 @ 10:51
Comment from: Dieter Hesch [Visitor]
Dieter Hesch

Well, I use them always for slack lining.
The price is dictated by the KEVLAR yarn from Dupont and they do not give us a discount.

04/04/12 @ 10:53
Comment from: Dieter Hesch [Visitor]
Dieter Hesch

As I said before the price is dictated mainly by the KEVLAR yarn from Dupont and they did not accept a discount when negotiating with them :-(

04/04/12 @ 10:56
Comment from: Andy [Visitor]
Andy

Great idea, but what do these gain over the awesome Vibram FiveFingers? At least vibrams look like you intended to put them on and go well with sports gear. These would look ridiculous! It would look like you got dressed for a run, put some oversized warm socks on and then went out running and forgot to take your socks off or put your shoes on! They need a lower ankle version with one smooth colour (black preferably) as they currently look like my Grandads old hiking socks with toes LOL

04/04/12 @ 12:58
Comment from: robert [Member]  

It all comes down to personal preference on the design. I prefer a higher rise in my socks. I actually would not mind if these were a little taller. I actually don't like no-show or ankle socks. I think they look and feel weird. It all just depends on what you like in design and what feels comfortable for you.

I don't climb stuff anymore. I did not give that aspect a try. They do seem to be rather secure. I would imagine they would do a pretty decent job. The toe pockets help keep everything in place more then a single toed sock would.

04/04/12 @ 16:53
Comment from: Steven Rau [Visitor]
Steven Rau

FYI -- When you place an order from their web site & state the US as your delivery address, it removes the 19% VAT (value added tax) that a European customer would have to pay. Thus, the cost of a pair was, for me, €61,58 EUR, which is $80.67 as of today.

I wish they had the ankle-length available in men's sizes, but. . . well, I just had to get a pair of these. Can't wait to run a 5k in what looks like cotton socks.

04/06/12 @ 13:43
Comment from: Lis [Visitor]
Lis

Why is there no size for 40/41?

04/10/12 @ 08:12
Comment from: Noah [Visitor]  
Noah

These dound like awesome socks - if a little bit unbelievable. If i could wear them w vffs sure but otherwise i wouldnt spend my money on them. If imma go on a rocky, muddy trail then imma put on my vffs and not have to worry about washing them... But still, this is an amazing concept an discovery of sorts.

04/15/12 @ 21:54
Comment from: Steven Rau [Visitor]  
Steven Rau

I just got my pair today. I put them on after the kids were asleep. I don't normally run at night, but putting these on reminded me of the first time I put on a pair of VFFs -- I just really wanted to go run. I didn't do a particularly long run, but I was quickly convinced. These are the natural next step in the barefoot trend. I love how in my well-worn KSOs that I can curl my toes with ease. With the Swiss Protection Socks, it's absolutely second nature.

I will put these to the test in a 5k race in two weeks. So far, they have indeed exceeded my expectations.

What remains to be seen is how long they will last.

04/23/12 @ 21:24
Comment from: CitizenJosh [Visitor]
CitizenJosh

I rate the Swiss Protection Socks a "meh" at best after months of using them.

http://citizenjosh.com/avocation/19-fitness/49-swiss-protection-socks.html

06/06/12 @ 11:07
Comment from: Allan Speers [Visitor]
Allan Speers

I haven't tried them yet.

My big concern is durability, and I can find no reports about this online. At roughly $80 a pair, I can't afford to be replacing them every few months.

The material is only 50% Kevlar, probably not even ballistic Kevlar, and the soles are not Kevlar at all! Isn't that where you'd actually want it?

So, are there any durability benchmarks? how many miles, typically before the soles wear out?

Also,are these resistant to being cut by broken glass? not all Kevlar is.

Also: can these be washed multiple times? The manufacturer of Kevlar states that it can't be washed more than 10-12 times before it starts to wear or lose its properties. So ?

07/26/12 @ 20:31
Comment from: Kasper Lund [Visitor]  
Kasper Lund

I am wondering the excact same thing as Allan Speers. Hopefully someone that has used them for some months can write a little bit about the durability :)

11/13/12 @ 15:18
Comment from: Marcel [Visitor]
Marcel

If you wear the socks in soft sand, do the sand grains get inside the socks? I am thinking of using them for hikes on the beach away from the water.

02/24/13 @ 11:57
Comment from: Ruslan [Visitor]
Ruslan

Here's my story. Being early adopter of everything cool, I ordered my pair online. I was looking forward to getting this pair and use it for all cool things they advertise it: hiking, rock climbing, etc.

Was very excited to get the parcel by mail and when opened - my excitement started to fade. There was a huge red disclaimer note attached to the packaging:

SPS is suitable for:
- “Outdoor on soft ground"
- Track across the fields, sandy paths, forest paths, sandy beach, gardens
- Water sports, board sports, swimming (protecting from cuts caused by shells, corals, stones)

SPS is not suitable for:
- Tarmac roads, paths with sharp obstacles, rocky paths to a limited extent
- Water sports where there are sea urchins (not sting-proof)
- As no sole, not suitable as footwear for lengthy walking and hiking with abrasive movement
- For reasons of liability law, we request that you comply with this specification.
- Not suitable for Surf- or Windsurf- Boards with rough “sanded “ surface with abrasion like asphalt
Special note
The Swiss Protection Sock is made using a knitted fabric where the principal yarn is one of the most resistant materials: Kevlar.But as with all knitted fabrics (stockings, pullover, wool socks etc) the knitting loops are extremely sensitive against pullout if you get caught on any even small hooking object. When you move away from such object the loop may be ruptured. Even one ruptured loop will open a hole at neighbour loops.We can not give any liability for such holes occurring in the use of the Swiss protection Sock.

It wasn't suitable for any of the cool advertised uses! Hm... I said to myself, but was still eager to try them on. Owing a few of vibram five fingers I was familiar with all aspects of sliding foot and adjusting fingers. Moment after trying to slide my foot into the sock, top part of the sock with the PLUS sign detached from the sock (it was sewed) and that's when my excitement disappeared. In addition the fabric didn't seem to hugely differ from wool/cotton, by slightly rubbing your finger against it (not even a nail) it would start to fluff and turn to lint.

My experience in dealing with the company. Wrote them following letter:

"Hello,

I'm writing today because I received my pair of socks today and was excited to put them on. As I tried to put the first one on the top part completely snapped at the seam. See the picture attached. Coupled with your warning notice attached to the package regarding you not guaranteeing that walking in this sock will not damage it, which was given to me AFTER the fact doesn't really make me very confident in your product. In fact it makes me very upset.

I'm waiting to hear back from you on your proposal for the resolution"

EXACTLY a week later... nobody replied. So I put together a follow up:

"It has been a week since I sent you a complaint and no one has bothered to reply. "

I received a reply next day:

"it seems you first eMail was not delivered, we are always replying within a maximum of 48 hours.
Anyway, if there is a technical issue on our side, please excuse this.

The problem that occurred is not your fault, we will send you a new Swiss Protection Sock as replacement,
from a new production which will be delivered in around 4 weeks. Currently we are sold out.

We hope that you are patient over this period of time, you can be sure to receive a replacement, a fully
functional Swiss Protection Sock, where this issue will of course not occur anymore."

Next day I received another reply:

"our CEO Dr. Dieter Hesch replied to your mail last Saturday. Please see the attached E-Mail message. Maybe there was a typo in the email address.

However we are still investigating in this matter and will come back to you as soon as we have received a statement of the manufacturer. We ask you to be patient and assure we will clarify the problem to your satisfaction. We apologise for any inconvenience.

Kind regards,"

The attached email was of the following nature:

"thank you for sending us your complaint which I take very seriously.

You got your Sock from the recent production which arrived recently. I hope that there will not be a general defect in this new production but at the moment this is unknown to me.

So maybe I reimburse you until we have more experience.

But be assured that in all former productions we had not that problem =
and no complaints from our huge number of customer.

Concerning the warning you mention, this does not say that you should not walk with the sock, this must be a misunderstanding at your site?

Anyway sorry for any inconvenience and best regards

DRDH"

I went on and replied:

"Mr Hesch,

This clearly wasn't sent to the right address, it was sent to ..... and this address doesn't exist and was never mentioned anywhere. I do however appreciate the reply and would accept the offer to get refunded at this point until more information and reviews become available on the outcomes of walking in those socks. As I mentioned before all your disclaimers go against the advertised uses of this sock, while you show you can climb and walk and hike, you immediately say that if you catch a loop along the way, you are not responsible and I consider this ridiculous. So let's do a refund at this point.

Thanks,"

The CEO's conclusive reply was:

"Good morning,

I have advised the management to refund you.

I am sorry for this issue but please understand that we do not want to have further correspondence with clients who behave like you do.
So please do not send messages, they will not be answered anymore and go to Spam.

Regards

DRDH"

A week later, still no refund.

You make your own decision...

05/03/13 @ 16:07
Comment from: Max berry [Visitor]  
Max berry

Not impressed with these. Bought 1 month ago and walked around twive with them casually for about 20 min. The third time i went on a trail with them and within an hour (of walking) there was a hole in both of the heels. Threw them away and believe they are a waste of your money.

09/03/13 @ 07:50
Comment from: GLENN DENNIS [Visitor]  
GLENN DENNIS

Need to know if they can be penetrated by small sting rays, as I was stung by one , and it is not good. They hide in the sand and only hit you around the ankles if you step on one.

01/06/14 @ 12:08