Comment from: Nocona [Visitor]
Nocona

I think I would take 3 simple pair of Sanuk Rounders over these, for the same price. Man those Lux are butt ugly.

06/20/17 @ 14:00
Comment from: Frans [Visitor]
Frans

I rather like mine too. They're pretty much the next best thing to my Xero Shoes (that is, no shoes at all). I'd definitely prefer not to wear them in this 30° weather though. :-P

06/21/17 @ 03:37
Comment from: [Member]

@Nocona,

Sanuk Rounders are fine but they're the typical, unrefined look of Sanuks and not made of quality leather -- nor are they as minimalist.

As for the aesthetics, I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder but "butt ugly?" These are easily one of the best looking pairs of minimalist shoes I've ever reviewed.

06/21/17 @ 12:26
Comment from: Leigh [Visitor]
Leigh

Glad to see you are getting some reviews in Justin!

These don't look too bad. I saw them on line in black and thought they were pretty sharp. I have plenty of other models and don't really see a need for these in my shoe lineup.

06/21/17 @ 13:46
Comment from: Ted_S [Visitor]
Ted_S

I like the aesthetics and the perforations. But I'm concerned about the width. I'm wondering, though, if the forefoot could be stretched or if there are seams that would prevent stretching without ripping?

Towards the end of 2009 I purchased a few different models of VivoBarefoot shoes and boots but had trouble with the width. At the same time I purchased my first pair of FiveFingers, the KSO Trek. The FiveFingers, with their stretchy kangaroo leather, quickly molded to my feet and were pain-free even on long hikes. I haven't worn the Vivos since then except for a couple of times when I needed something dressier and more conventional.

Lately (last few years) Fivefingers have also become too narrow (for my feet). I'm able to wear the recently discontinued Trek Ascent Leather by going a size larger than my actual length and then moderately stretching them (the seams rip if I try stretching them very much). However an oversized shoe is not an ideal solution, especially when an off-trail hike involves a bit a rock climbing.

06/21/17 @ 14:46
Comment from: Nocona [Visitor]
Nocona

Admin, fair and true enough about the Sanuks.

I'll still lean more to what Frans said about the Xero shoes. Amazing comfort and the casual Hanas look a million times better (in the eyes of this beholder) than this funky, off color, too high of sole material around the sides, shoe.

06/21/17 @ 14:53
Comment from: Doug [Visitor]
Doug

Yeah, I think they are great looking shoes too. Although I would like them in either black or a darker shade as well, but it looks like the natural leather goes well with jeans.
How do they look with khakis? (my wife has this impression that clothes have to "match"...)

So, I was looking over their site and they do have them in black...for women. :(
I like the Primus Lite also and almost bought a pair until I saw the white accents on the instep side of the shoe. Now it doesn't matter since they don't have my size in stock.

I've been looking at another pair of Vivo's since my first pair of Ra's (version 1's even) finally died (the sole of one just fell completely off the other day). My Ra II pair are still going strong, but I need something I can wear with black. (more matching issues...)
These will probably fit the bill, I just have to justify the $150 price tag.

06/23/17 @ 13:22
Comment from: Nyah [Visitor]
Nyah

These look to have the same problem that exists on the Ra (and apparently other Vivo) shoes. The side of the big toe is not wide enough. The back half of the shoe is too wide in proportion to the front half. This shape is essentially backwards from how a shoe should be. When I go up in size to the point at which the toe area becomes tolerable, the edge of the collar is then too high, uncomfortably rubbing the bottom of my ankle bone.

07/09/17 @ 12:41
Comment from: Mats [Visitor]  
Mats

I've had these shoes for maybe a month or so. Great summer shoes.
They look good, feel good, and because of the leather insole, they can be worn without socks for extended periods of time with getting that funky smell.

A couple of notes:

*As Justin says, the rubber sole is not actually stitched to the leather upper, like Vivo said in their press release.
This is kinda disappointing as these are expensive shoes made with high quality materials.
Vivo uses some kind of environmental friendly glue that isn't as good as the nastier stuff other companies use. That's great, but the downside is that it isn't as effective, and many Vivos have the habit of separating over time.
Glue + stitches like their casual shoes would have been much better from a longevity point of view.
I've used them almost every day for over a month, and both shoes show signs of separating.
Nothing too bad so far, mostly cosmetic (and you can fix it with a bit of super glue).
But I really would have liked them to be stitched as this is marketed as a premium shoe.

*The press release and Justin say these are completely unlined leather.
This is also no true. It's only the back part of the shoe that's unlined leather. The toe box is lined with some kind of fabric. You can easily see that if you remove/loosen the laces and look into the toe box.
The great part of having an unlined all leather shoe is that they don't start to stink nearly as easily as shoes made with other materials. You can actually wear them sock less and not worry.

I was worried this fabric would start to stink after a while and ruin the sock less shoe thing.
I've used them without any socks for about a month now... So far so good.
I guess Vivo put the fabric there to prevent blesters and hot spots, but I would have preferred a completely unlined version. That, and make the perforations on the toe box bigger so they would actually let in some air. Now they are mostly cosmetic, the ones in the arch area work great though...

But all in all a great shoe. One of the best from from Vivo so far.

07/21/17 @ 10:18
Comment from: kyle [Visitor]
kyle

I am a wide footed dude who has desperately tried almost all vivo shoes. The problem with their new last is not just the narrowing, its the shape of the toe box as well. The toe box is shaped like a banana instead of a more accommodating eggplant like profile :D If you look at their upcoming Betabrand projects you will find TONS of people sharing the same issue. In other words, if your pinkie toe is closer to the length of your big toe there is no way you can fit in 90% of vivo shoes. To me this seems silly since a banana can ALWAYS comfortably fit an eggplant toebox, but an eggplant can NEVER jam into a banana box.

The only options for feet like mine are softstar, xeroshoes and sandals. The new merrell vapor glove has a great toe box, but it is restrictive in the mid foot if your feet are at all wide.

Hope this info helps some folks and I'm glad you are enjoying your primus' Justin. Great review as always. This site is great.

08/04/17 @ 12:52
Comment from: Steve Maxwell [Visitor]
Steve Maxwell

I have been a Vivo wearer for a long time. I bought the Primus Lux in black leather with white soles three months ago. At first I wasn't sure about the white soles, But thy grew on me. To me, they look like a pair of hipster sneakers but with all the benift of minimalist shoes. I travel full time and need a pair of light weight, versatile footwear. I travel with one bag and can't carry around a lot of stuff.
I've run, skipped rope, done ground based mobility drills, lifted weights, performed calisthenics and walked many daily miles in these. So far, no sign of wear or separation at the sole... the leather cleans easy with a wipe down with a damp hotel wash cloth..
So far they seem really durable and the leather looks good. Great everyday and training shoe.

08/08/17 @ 00:17
Comment from: Giacomo [Visitor]  
Giacomo

Vivobarefoot shoes are too narrow theses days. The longer you go barefoot, the wider your toes get. Shoes should be WIDEST at the toes, but this is NOT the case with Vivobarefoot.

I always need to size up with Vivo just to be able to wear them and this results in a shoe that is too long and it creates a tripping hazard.

I hope Vivobarefoot changes their last to be wider at the toes. At least offer a couple models that are widest at the toes Vivo.

If you talk a good barefoot game Vivo, you need to deliver a better natural/barefoot shoe.

08/30/17 @ 16:53
Comment from: Martha [Visitor]  
Martha

I love Vivobarefoot shoes, but they are very difficult to order online. I've been trying to order a pair for 3 day, and the website won't take the order. It might be a problem with my computer, but I've ordered multiple times before. Their customer service is poor, and they won't take orders online. Exchanges are impossible--you have to return and reorder, which is a super hassle. I'm looking for a brand I like as much as Vivobarefoot that I can order without all the trouble.

09/04/17 @ 11:58
Comment from: Noconago [Visitor]
Noconago

kyle, if you are STUCK with only softstar and xero shoes...you are in great hands. I think they are the two best barefoot shoe companies out there. Still hoping for a real waterproof winter boot. Come on Xero and Softstar, show us what you can do in that category.

09/04/17 @ 18:57


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