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Jim Weber, CEO of Brooks, on Barefoot Running

This is interesting — an open letter from Jim Weber, CEO of Brooks, on barefoot running. If you have a second, go read it. Here’s a clip from his letter:Let’s call a spade a spade. We make running shoes: High-quality, biomechanically mapped,…

This is interesting — an open letter from Jim Weber, CEO of Brooks, on barefoot running. If you have a second, go read it. Here’s a clip from his letter:

Let’s call a spade a spade. [Brooks makes] running shoes: High-quality, biomechanically mapped, performance running shoes calibrated for runners’ unique needs. We hope runners buy our shoes and we’re confident they’ll enjoy them. But this isn’t about selling shoes. And, quite frankly, this isn’t even about running barefoot.

So what are we talking about here? First and foremost, we’re all talking about running, and that’s a great thing because we believe to our core that running is a positive force in our world. We want everyone to run and be happy. But to get there, whether you should run barefoot is not the great debate. We are all unique. The focus should be on how you run and train, and then finding the right shoe that addresses your unique biomechanical needs. “The Perfect Ride for Every Stride,” as we say at Brooks.

There’s more, including Weber’s categorization of runners into a spectrum generally broken down into runners who effectively must wear shoes because their form is particularly bad or their feet particularly weak, “biomechanically blessed” runners who have the option to wear shoes or not, and everyone else, a catch-all for the average, majority of runners.

Though it’s interesting at a meta level that Brooks is publicly addressing the barefoot running movement, the letter seems fatally skewed towards a pro-shoe bias. As is often the case of any insider, you breath your own exhaust long enough and it’s difficult to see clearly. Weber and Brooks mean well, I’m sure, but I personally think they are misled.

Below is a comment I left to the open letter. It’s no surprise that I’m biased (aren’t we all?); and though I’m hesitant to post so much opinion on this blog, the “running shoe debate,” pun intended, is important so I’m reposting my comment here.

Read my comment below. Feedback is welcome.


So this is about running. If that is the case, then shouldn’t the focus be on how best to get people running injury-free?

Therein lies the rub and the evidence may soon be mounting (slowly) towards barefoot running. Like the recent study showing that torsional stress on hips and knees is higher running in shoes than running barefoot (link)

Anecdotally, there are many, many cases whereby individuals report going from being biomechanically cursed running in shoes (and getting injured) to running min-shod or barefoot and reducing/eliminating injury and becoming biomechanically blessed.

Since wearing shoes is the default position, the progression here is typically from being a shod runner first and then later becoming a barefoot runner. Anyone out there gone the other direction? Anyone out there given a concerted effort towards barefoot running only to fail and have to get some biomechanics correcting shoes?

You note:

We are all unique. The focus should be on how you run and train, and then finding the right shoe that addresses your unique biomechanical needs

This is problematic for shoes for a couple reasons — but no problem for going barefoot.

  1. how do you focus on how you run and train (or how to run properly) if your shoes affect how you run and train? This chicken/egg problem isn’t trivial when shoe design directly affects how you run.
  2. a quick count of the men’s shoes offerings at Brooks brings up 31 styles. That’s 31 styles for every unique runner out there. Even if we grant that all the unique variations in runners can be categorized to find the one correct shoe style out of 31 that will be the best, how is a runner to go about testing them each to find the magic style that works — a problem compounded by (1) above, which is that the shoes affect the way you run.

Contrast this against the automatically customized shoe — one built only for you, one that has built-in AI with a few thousand input receptors to provide instantaneous feedback, and a “shoe” that will rejuvenate forever. This shoe is so advanced that it has has an internal frame of almost 30 parts. Even still, this shoe is hardwired into the rest of the body.

Of course, I’m talking about our feet: unique to each of us and massively adaptable. Feet are our living shoes.

Now sure, if you’ve been clunking around in dead-shoes (pardon the terminology), then your live-shoes may be a bit weak and need to be rehabilitated. We expect as much whenever we cast a bodypart for months, so we should expect the same for anyone who has been sticking their feet in “foot casts.”

I don’t mean to come off so pejoratively towards dead-shoes, but they’re just so simple compared to our feet, and if you’re going to talk about uniqueness, then I think the default position should side with the innately unique solution — bare feet.

I’ll wrap it up, but to me, your runner categories is off. It seems to me that the only ones whose default position should be to run in shoes (or non-minimalist footwear such as VFFs or otherwise), are those who’ve not sustained injuries — those who are “biomechanically blessed” to run in shoes! If this isn’t you, maybe you can spend an enormous amount of time and effort trying out all the shoe options out there until you find one that doesn’t injure you -OR- you could just go outside and run down the street barefoot.

Disclosure: I’m biased as I run https://birthdayshoes.com, but even as I love VFFs, I still recognize that even they dumb down my feet. Their success is just a testament to how much better they are than your average shoe (And hey, for all I know, Brooks are way above average, so no dig there I swear!).

(permalink to the comment | Note: did some minor edits to my comment here where typos/wording could be improved! )

By Justin

Justin Owings is a deadlifting dad of three, working from Atlanta. When he's not chasing his three kids around, you'll find him trying to understand systems, risk, and human behavior.

13 replies on “Jim Weber, CEO of Brooks, on Barefoot Running”

Well put. Everyone is already “biomechanically blessed” with the tools to run – we weren’t born wearing a pair of Brooks shoes now were we? After years of competitive running hampered by injury, barefoot running let my muscles re-adjust, and now I can finally run comfortably in shoes or without (though I pretty much only wear my KSO’s now). I commend Brooks CEO for tackling this issue – though it is a losing battle against a massive number of barefoot/minimalist converts!

Of course you’re biased, but so is he, but the science has fallen in your favor of late.

Brooks is out to keep customers from fleeing via the barefoot movement, so their trying to appeal to the skeptics. Yet, skeptics should value the scientific method, and Brooks’s CEO offers nothing in that realm (or at least he doesn’t back up any of his claims with science). He’s basically a priest of footwear.

@Paul,

“I commend Brooks CEO for tackling this issue.”

To be honest, I’m not convinced he actually really tackled anything. He made a few generalizations and then touted how different runners are unique. I didn’t say this, but I’m assuming he’s equating barefoot running to being too simple — too one-size-fits-all — and that running shoes address the unique needs of different runners.

But this treats the foot like it’s stupid and broken when it’s quite the opposite. I think he’s too close to the subject to see how he is grossly simplifying things in order to support his default position.

@Kevin,

I agree. And I think even as Brooks is addressing the issue, they’re still blind to the reality of it.

By the way, love the “priest of footwear” moniker!

Justin — Once again, the “biomechanically blessed” line. I can’t count the number of times I’ve read that. I’m one of countless runners who wasn’t “biomechanically blessed” enough to run in shoes. Fortunately, my feet were able to recover, and I’m perfectly fine running without those overly cushions, over-engineered wonders.

Thanks for linking to this and throwing your wisdom and experience into the debate.

Justin,

Great response! I read the Brooks letter earlier this morning along with their longer “paper” on barefoot running (and why hardly anyone should be able to get away with it). I found it quite interesting that in the paper they said that people can be natural heel-strikers even when they are barefoot and that these people should only run in sand if they feel must run barefoot. The view that our gait, form and foot strike are something that is given at birth and cannot be altered is quite interesting and only reveals that they have either not spent much time trying to alter their form (which we all have to do when we run barefoot) or it is in their best interest to stick with the assumption that everyone is “stuck” with a certain running form and therefore need a shoe to help with the deficiencies of that particular form. I’m sure it is probably a little of both.

Great site and posts as always.

David

Awesome response, Justin! I think you hit it on the head with the rationalization that those that ARE ‘biomechanically blessed’ are those that can easily adapt to using shoes and still go injury free, whereas your average person (like me) will end up suffering a bit (or a lot) when using the highly exalted and worshipped overly-engineered running shoe.

Also love the Priest of Footwear!

Using his logic, let’s call a spade a spade.

He’s doing his job as the CEO of a shoe company.

He’s obviously going to spin it in a way so that he can sell more shoes.

The reality is that the foot is the most natural shoe, as you said it.

In “running shoes” I could go forward a few dozen feet and my lower back would start to ache. Strangely I could run backwards semi-ok.

I put on a pair of KSOs about 6 months ago, and I now run 4-5 miles 5-6x days a week. No backpain. No knee pain (having had two arthroscopic surgeries on one knee).

I attribute this entirely to the fact that I started running without a huge piece of rubber on my heel.

But yeah… at the end of the day his job is to sell shoes, and I don’t buy any of his `speech.`

LOL! The post has been deleted from the Brooks blog page. I guess they couldn’t handle the truth. The shoe industry is trying to hold onto the lies that made them rich. It’s just like my mother told me – Lies have a way of catching up with you.

I went and looked at the blog — for whatever reason, it seems they changed the permalink of the post, so I just need to update that link here. The post is still there though!

This is the best part:

“At one end of the spectrum, we know there are runners who lack foot strength leading to severe pronation. They may strike heavily and need a great deal of support to run injury- and pain-free.”

Maybe they lack foot strength because of their shoes.

Sounds to me like a “no, really, shoes are great, keep buying them!” kind of letter. Not that I would expect him to say “you know what, you are right, we are totally wrong!”, either.

All I know is I am flat footed as they come. I tried for years with medial shin splints and tibial stress fractures to run in modern protecting running shoes with and without 4 pairs of custom orthotics with no success at all. Even to date if I put on my old asics kayano that are about 8 years old I immediately get pain while running. I run barefoot or with vibram ff and get no pain what so ever. People have to learn for themselves what works. It took me years to smarten up. So many people just don’t get it. Its the only way I will run for the rest of my life. Barefoot or minimal is the only way for me.

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