Comment from: Clang [Visitor]
Clang

The sole looks like it would wear through very quickly. I have been looking for a good minimalist boot for winter and can't decide between this and the vivo barefoot off roads that have the a 5mm sole, but significantly more tread. I am reluctant to spend $200+ dollars on a shoe if the sole is to wear out in a season or two. Any thoughts on tread durability?

12/07/11 @ 11:59
Comment from: mynameisfoxtrot.com [Visitor]
mynameisfoxtrot.com

i've been waiting for a minimalist boot option for a while. is there anything else besides the bormios and these?

these look cool but the price is a bit high.

12/07/11 @ 13:57
Comment from: Nick [Visitor]
Nick

In rough-side-out, suede please. These would would make a nice match to my Danner RAT boots....

12/07/11 @ 14:29
Comment from: Bailey harris [Visitor]
Bailey harris

these look really cool. but i have to agree a bit pricey

12/07/11 @ 18:03
Comment from: cute boots [Visitor]
cute boots

Cute, makes me think, will there be a bormio ls?

12/07/11 @ 18:30
Comment from: robert [Member]  

I have been wearing these around for awhile now on a regular basis. I have noticed no real wear in the tread on the sole of the shoe. The sole also does an excellent job at gripping the wet parking lots here in Seattle. I have not had any slipping with the sole since I have been using them. I have been impressed with the overall construction quality of the pair of boots I bought. The way they stitched the upper to the sole is quite ingenious in my opinion.

They are normally $215 on the website. With the 20% coupon code you save $43 which brings the price down to $172 That is not a unreasonable amount to pay for a good pair of winter boots. If you have winter weather where you live and really need a good pair of warm/dry boots then it could be worth the investment.

12/07/11 @ 19:05
Comment from: Bailey [Visitor]
Bailey

thanks for the advice. i've been wanting a pair of boots and these seem perfect. mainly because i didn't really fancy the vibram bormio.

12/07/11 @ 21:38
Comment from: Jay [Visitor]
Jay

fyi Feelmax is planning to make a new boot soon. They had a fire at their factory so we have not seen any new feelmax shoes this year.

re Oetzi3300

Anyone try their other shoes?

12/08/11 @ 10:29
Comment from: JD Hall [Visitor]
JD Hall

These are very similar to boots that I modified after falling in love with VFF and minimalist shoes. I had an old pair of Red Wing boots that I stopped wearing because of the huge heel. I took them to a local shoe repair shop and had the sole, shank, and everything else removed. Vibram Newporter soles were then stitched on. I love wearing them in the winter and for work now and the modifications only cost around $50. Any shoe repair store can make this conversion for you. I'll post pics in the forum section.

12/08/11 @ 10:33
Comment from: darius sohei [Visitor]  
darius sohei

i talked to them about sizing before, my foots is slightly too large for their largest size, this is a common and infuriating problem in the minimalist world. there are scant few (i would say NONE) healthy shoes that actually look fashionable. BS.

12/08/11 @ 12:56
Comment from: xz123 [Visitor]
xz123

It's a pity that Feelmax doesn't produce shoes anymore. I still have a pair of Feelmax Kuuvas, and those are really, really minimal, lightweight, waterproof and great winter boots.
They only have two slight downsides: The color isn't black, and the sole is the typical Feelmax sole. Which is great in general, but doesn't offer very much grip.

12/08/11 @ 13:58
Comment from: Steven Beckerman [Visitor]
Steven Beckerman

I hate HATE hate these boots. They hugged my feet to a painful degree (a feature, as explained when I returned them, since they should be allowed to stretch to conform better to the individual).

With the cork sole removed there were too many exposed stitches - even with socks you could feel them.

I never wore them out of the house, but in house ground feel was poor compared to VFF Treks or Vivobarefoot Lesotho and Dharma...

I did not consider the outsole to be flexible, it had a very limited range of movement/flex - what you see pictured above is a generous representation, but not the whole story. As you'll see below in my description of the Oetzi 300GMS, flexing the sole will actually result in "popping" noises that are likely indicative of the lack of flex designed into the product.

In fact, I've been so vocally opposed to these as minimalist footwear, the owner reached out to me to send me a sample of the newer designs, the 300GMS. Those feel much improved over the design of the Troop boots that I tested out last year, but still not something I endorse.

Here's my personal review of those:

I'd have to say that they are immensely improved over the older leather models that I had tried of Oetzi3300, but still far below the standards I look for in my footwear.

The insole is still way too much for me, I personally can not be comfortable with any arch support or heel rise after spending so much time barefoot or in minimalist footwear. I will admit the tactile sensation is quite pleasing when standing on cork and understand why many would be happy with it, but for someone that appreciates ground feel it's simply a no go.

Fitment is actually close to perfect and yet far from it at the same time. With the insole in, the shoe is secure around the ankle but ever so slightly confining around the toes (and that's a compliment when you consider that my feet are quite wide). With the insole removed, my toes can splay quite well, but without the heel rise pushing up the ankle against the upper, it becomes so loose as to impart a feeling of wearing bags on my feet and the lack of
supporting structure makes the shoes aesthetically look worse as the canvas sags down.

I will say that a size 46 in these has a toebox with a level of comfort for my feet similar to a size 47 in most Vivo Barefoot shoes that I've worn... so I'm very satisified by that. With the insole removed, the exposed stitching would make it uncomfortable to wear sockless for any length of time. As for flexibility of the sole, it does seem better than what I remember from the older models, but not at the level of more minimalist shoes. It was also disconcerting when I went to test out flexing them and heard a loud pop - was that a stitch popping or the sole itself cracking, I don't know but it occurred on both shoes. The stitching is exposed in the bottom of the sole and is extensive from the outer edges to the middle of the foot.

I'll wear them out a bit to give them a fair chance... but based on my initial impressions, I still am leaning towards the not being appropriate casual wear for anyone that is hardcore into a minimalist or barefoot lifestyle.

12/08/11 @ 18:05
Comment from: robert [Member]  

@Jay I have bought a few of their other shoes and I will be doing a comparative review at some point in time. Something that talks about the similarities/differences and which one is the best minimalist option for casual/dressy wear.

12/08/11 @ 19:34
Comment from: primal mike [Visitor]
primal mike

Last year I searched long and hard for a winter boot in Chicago for trails or street wear. I found the best option was the terra plana Franklins. Completely waterproff and when coupled with a poly liner and a fleece sock it will stay warm all day. When there is snow on the trails I use them with a lightweight wraparound boot snow cleat and gators. Ive gone on extended primitive winter hikes and it is completely warm.

12/08/11 @ 22:42
Comment from: xz123 [Visitor]
xz123

@Jay

Oh, that's good to hear.
Due to the moderated comments I didn't see your post before posting my comment..

12/09/11 @ 03:24
Comment from: Brian [Visitor]
Brian

I got through last winter in New York City wearing the Vivobarefoot Aqueous. Mid-rise boot. Zero drop. Decent ground feel. 100% waterproof. Not cheap, but should last multiple seasons.

A good winter option to consider.

12/09/11 @ 09:42
Comment from: Clay [Visitor]  
Clay

Hi, I'm having a hard time finding a minimalist winter shoe in a larger size. I usually wear a size 14 USA (vivobarefoot size 48/49). I'm looking for something other than five fingers. Anyone know of anything?
Thanks

01/11/12 @ 16:56
Comment from: Bob [Visitor]
Bob

Do they come in brown? These would be quite an improvement over my Army boots (aka, the toe killers) and look to be the right height and of a moderate style.

02/09/12 @ 18:20
Comment from: robert [Member]  

They come in a Black, Mocha, and Red. The Mocha is a dark brown.

02/09/12 @ 21:42
Comment from: cory [Visitor]  
cory

Hey I was wondering if that code for the 20. Off is still the correct one bcuz is not working for me :(

02/12/12 @ 22:39
Comment from: robert [Member]  

I think that the code has expired by now. I think it was good till about the 9th of this month.

02/12/12 @ 23:54
Comment from: Eric [Visitor]
Eric

Love these boots. Thank you kindly for the recommendation and the discount code (I used it a couple of months ago). I would agree with Steven Beckerman that going sockless with the footbeds removed isn't advisable due to the stitching in the liner. However, this hasn't been a problem for me because I wear socks to have warm feet, plus my feet eventually start to smell badly if I don't wear socks. Maybe wearing socks isn't hardcore minimalist, but that's not my motivation. The boots have a flexible zero-drop sole that feels good to me. I happen to like the look, but taste is subjective. But where else can one get a healthy-for-your-feet boot that has some street style to it? Maybe you can but I think the Oetzi is unique in this respect.

Oh the sole is wearing very well for me, too. The TPU-injected outsole sole is showing very little signs of wear after nearly two months of frequent use.

On a tip from a planetshoes.com reviewer, I got some bungee laces and tie them up halfway. This turns the boots into slipons, which is very convenient.

02/21/12 @ 23:31
Comment from: runnerkid [Visitor]
runnerkid

are these shoes made of leather and where can i buy them

12/31/12 @ 15:11
Comment from: Casey Brown [Visitor]
Casey Brown

If they aren't going to offer them in sage green suede, then they aren't really trying. Nice boot, that I won't be purchasing.

06/16/13 @ 12:30
Comment from: Karyn [Visitor]
Karyn

I don't have a car, so I do a lot of walking. I've been wearing Vivobarefoot shoes, but I will have the soles worn clean off in under 8 months because of the extensive amount of walking I do, and they're not able to be resoled. Do you have any knowledge as to whether these would be able to be resoled/repaired by a cobbler? I don't mind spending a lot of $$ on good-quality shoes, but since I know they will get extensive use from me, I'd like to know that I won't be stuck trashing them in only a few months. I'm looking to switch to a good-quality barefoot-style shoe that's able to be repaired when needed. Do you have any further input or thoughts on this? Thanks.

10/22/13 @ 10:48
Comment from: Karyn [Visitor]  
Karyn

I don't have a car, so I do a lot of walking. I've been wearing Vivobarefoot shoes, but I will have the soles worn clean off in under 8 months because of the extensive amount of walking I do, and they're not able to be resoled. Do you have any knowledge as to whether these would be able to be resoled/repaired by a cobbler? I don't mind spending a lot of $$ on good-quality shoes, but since I know they will get extensive use from me, I'd like to know that I won't be stuck trashing them in only a few months. I'm looking to switch to a good-quality barefoot-style shoe that's able to be repaired when needed. Do you have any further input or thoughts on this? Thanks.

10/22/13 @ 10:50