Comment from: Marc [Visitor]
Marc

Jarvis – are you able to comment on the feel of these vs the version with a 2mm Vibram sole?

11/13/14 @ 14:22
Comment from: Juha [Visitor]
Juha

Sounds good.. I wonder how it would work without innersole, which is also possible with DYO-runamocs.

11/14/14 @ 04:12
Comment from: jarvis [Member]  

Marc,

The Bullhide leather sole has a bit more "give" to it than the 2mm Vibram sole, but not quite as much as the 6mm Vibram Morflex sole that you may find in a variety of running sandals and shoes.

It's a very interesting sole--as you can see from the review. Super flexible, transfers a lot of information on temperature and textures, and the entire shoe molds itself beautifully to your foot.

Again, I was a little unsure about the fit because they seemed too narrow at first, but now they are--easily--the most comfortable shoes that I have.

There is absolutely zero structure in this shoe, which lends itself to it a high degree of minimalist/barefoot credibility.

Juha,

I am not sure about innersoles of other DYO RunAmocs, but the bullhide sole in this version is stitched into the shoe and there is no innersole that can be removed. The entire shoe is very light, comfortable, and a joy to wear.

11/14/14 @ 11:30
Comment from: Fran [Visitor]
Fran

I own several pairs of these shows with the bullhide sole. The review is spot on, and the shoes are without a doubt the most comfortable I've ever worn. The review leaves out one very important detail however. Being that the sole is leather, the shoes perform very poorly on a wet pavement. The issue is not so much the traction, but that the shoes will become soaked with water pretty fast, and after their soaked, they take a while to dry. I live in the Pacific Northwest, and consider this a summer shoe. But these shoes cannot be worn on a rainy day (unless the rain is a very light mist or drizzle) unless you don't mind walking around in soggy feet.

11/14/14 @ 12:40
Comment from: jon [Visitor]
jon

What side Vibram do you wear?

Thanks!

11/14/14 @ 14:07
Comment from: jarvis [Member]  

Hi Jon,

I wear 41 Vibrams and am typically a size 9 in US sizes.
43 in Lems.

11/18/14 @ 11:26
Comment from: Matt [Visitor]  
Matt

Hey,

I really liked the way you wrote the review.
I’m thinking of using these shoes for everything, including running, parkour, work, etc. Two things bother me though:
1) I heard it is not really good to wash leather - when sweating in them, they will probably stink up pretty fast - this would definitely be a minus right?
2) the leather sole, as they say (which is really kind of them!) is slippery on wet surfaces. Is it generally more slippery than rubber? What if you run on concrete with them to make little abrasions, might that increase the traction? I would really appreciate your opinion :)

11/19/14 @ 12:09
Comment from: jarvis [Member]  

Hey Matt!

I think these shoes would do quite well for parkour and are perfect for leisure due to their flexibility and comfort.

For whatever reason, these shoes are pretty breathable and my feet have stayed pretty cool despite all of my adventures. My guess is the flexibility and the lack of structure helps with stink. Care instructions say that you can wipe them with a dump cloth, but I would not recommend washing them. Leather itself is pretty good about not picking up extra odors, compared to many other materials, despite being porous.

I've worn mine for a couple of months now and there is no stink to be found :)

The leather sole is really fantastic! but it's not a good idea for slippery or wet surfaces. It is definitely more slipper than leather. We're not talking "sock-level" sliding, but these shoes lack any tread and will not give you a ton of grip.

So, while the flexibility would be great for parkour, you may not be able to quite grab on to walls as you are used to with rubber soles.

I believe you are correct in that as the sole wears, it may increase its grip, but just by a small margin.

I have already noticed that the bottoms of the soles have tiny circles from where my toes land, it's incredibly cool!

11/21/14 @ 07:19
Comment from: Matt [Visitor]
Matt

Thanks, you definitely convinced me :)
I ordered a pair!

So those circles are like the ones on your toes? You use the shoes without socks?

11/25/14 @ 06:59
Comment from: jarvis [Member]  

Matt,

I do wear socks with casual shoes, but never with anything I run with.

However, while I do wear socks, the pressure from above is applied from each individual toe.

It makes for some interesting sole wear with the bullhide leather!

11/26/14 @ 17:34
Comment from: snedger [Visitor]  
snedger

Hello
I've just received my 2 pairs of RunAmoc.
First pair I tried have 5mm soles.
Very comfortable. Great grip on pavements with rotten leaves.
Tried the bullhide version and found in spite of the no traction disclaimer I had total grip walking on pavement, stones, pub carpets, tiles.
Realised very soon that you do not want to tie the laces tight - comfort is determined by tieing the laces to exactly fit your foot width. Much better feel than the 5mm soled shoes, but I will need the extra grip at times in the winter.
During the evening I had to look at my feet a couple of times to check that I was wearing shoes.

Good job shoes were on sale, I had to go for priority air mail to get my shoes in time for an xmas do. Annoyingly it took a week for the UK courier to get the customs charge notice to me, but I got the shoes a day after I'd paid the £24+£8 charge - sale reduction pretty much wiped out with delivery and custom charges - but IMO worth it even at full price.

Matt,
Thanks so much for publishing your positive review! I am so glad that I got some of these shoes :)

Cheers
Ian Gough

12/03/14 @ 07:32
Comment from: jarvis [Member]  

Ian,

I'm glad you love them!

They really are amazing shoes!

12/04/14 @ 12:47
Comment from: Matt [Visitor]
Matt

Hey,

I really feel obliged to give some feedback.
After 3 weeks, my shoes finally came to Germany, because of the slow German customs administration. Like snedger, I had to pay an additional charge, but I have to say - it was TOTALLY worth it!

The shoes are awesome. And that sentence speaks for itself.

I ordered a wide 13U version, and they fit me perfectly. I’ve never felt so good in a shoe that is not Vibram FiveFingers. And I can wear them to work, without damaging my work flow.

After I got them, I wanted to test the things people were pointing out to be a disadvantage. So I took them out on a cold (0 degrees), wet day in Berlin. I haven’t noticed them being any more slippery than New Balance minimus, or like any other usual shoes. I have no trouble at all walking on slippery pavement. And they’re not soaking through while walking on wet pavement.
Jarvis, as you said, they are really breathable. I have no idea why, but it gives a really really good feel. While I was waiting for the metro, I noticed that my shoes would leave warm prints on cold pavement, not in shape of the shoe, but in exact shape of the foot. My feet usually sweat alot, and this just lets the steam through. And still keeps my feet warm!

My feet are quite wide, and I can still move my pinky! And it almost feels like wearing absolutely nothing. The sole is thin, and I have to walk with caution, not slamming my heel into the cement, which is really good, as it helps strengthen my ankles, legs and posture. I am really happy.

And the best part is that the shoe looks really good. And it is really designed and made with heart. I have to say, good job, SoftStar!

I’m enjoying them very much right now :)

Many many thanks for pointing them out to me :)

12/12/14 @ 05:15
Comment from: jarvis [Member]  

Matt!

I'm glad you enjoy them!

I agree, they are absolutely fantastic and are very accommodating to wide feet

12/15/14 @ 16:23
Comment from: Daniel Lefco [Visitor]  
Daniel Lefco

Great review- make me want them bad!

How do these (Dash) compare to the original RunAmoc DYO?
Like one of the previous commenters, I live in the Pacific NW- Portland, exactly.

Love the Unshoes Uinta sandals for summer but for winter I need: a) shoes that will pass as business casual, and b) waterproof boots for walking the dog.

My sense is that these would not meet either need. Do you agree?

10/19/15 @ 15:56
Comment from: jarvis [Member]  

Daniel,

These shoes are great for business casual, but they are certainly NOT waterproof. In fact, the leather will actually soak up water until it gets to bottom of your feet, so even wet grass is a no no.

However, I absolutely love these shoes.

10/20/15 @ 11:49
Comment from: Neil [Visitor]  
Neil

Can you comment on the shoes in the rain? Winter?

12/23/15 @ 02:22
Comment from: jarvis [Member]  

Neil,

These are not appropriate for rain or winter because the sole is leather and will absorb water. However, the non-leather versions will fair slightly better. Regardless, they are so low-profile and the leather construction makes for wet feet in the rain.

01/04/16 @ 08:53
Comment from: Martin [Visitor]  
Martin

Hi, thanks for the great review.

I'd would have 2 questions, please:

- what is the width you have bought (wide, narrow, regular)

- the main color is black or dark blue?

Thanks :)

05/30/16 @ 08:12
Comment from: jarvis [Member]  

Martin,

Regular (oddly enough!) and the main color is a nice black

05/31/16 @ 13:58
Comment from: Kristin Piljay [Visitor]  
Kristin Piljay

I got these shoes with the trail sole about a month ago. I love them! So comfortable. I am curious how different the leather sole would feel, although they might not be as useful for me as I live in the rainy Pacific NW. I did order the SSS merry jane metro with a bullhide sole, but unfortunately the shoe did not fit me well (even in the same size as the dash), so I sadly had to send it back. I thought it would be a good summer shoe (when there's less rain). But I exchanged it for a ballerine with a sports strap, so I'm hoping that will work (will hopefully arrive tomorrow). Also ordered a moccasin (Roo) that was on sale. I'm going nuts over Soft Star Shoes and now I can't wear my "normal" shoes anymore. I actually sold or gave most of my old shoes.

Here's a review I did on the dash runamocs with the trail sole: http://www.wanderlustphotos.com/2016/06/05/new-shoes-to-prance-in-dash-runamocs-by-soft-star-shoes/

07/03/16 @ 23:31
Comment from: jarvis [Member]  

Kristin,

These soles are NOT waterproof, so they are only good for non-rainy days.

My mother is a big fan of their ballerine.

I would also recommend the Vivobarefoot Jing's (they are having a sale right now!)

Awesome review! I'll definitely be checking out your blog in the future! Looks like you had such an adventure!

Let me know what you think of their sport strap.

...I also cannot wear any "normal" shoes anymore.
I went bowling the other day and I kept clacking the thick heel of the rented shoes as I walked around the non-carpeted area.

-Jarvis

07/04/16 @ 10:40