Comment from: niki_in_france [Visitor]
niki_in_france

I would never run in them, but I do a lot of biking and the VFF aren't so great for that. I can't wear normal shoes since the toebox is too narrow. They look like they'd be perfect for biking! I would buy them for that.

04/05/12 @ 15:24
Comment from: John [Visitor]
John

I'm not sure I agree with the assessment of the toebox on the Frees. Compared to my Merrells and Altras the Frees have a stretchy fabric that lets my toes move all over. The flexibility of the sole is nice, too. The heel lift and the fact that the marshmallows grab all sorts of sticks and rocks in the grooves is not.

04/05/12 @ 16:09
Comment from: ron [Visitor]
ron

wait.. .where's the USB connector for these? as a cool ad-on, fila could
have added some red LED lights
around the sole.
now, that's a Real "VOLTAGE"!!!

04/05/12 @ 17:27
Comment from: robert [Member]  

I don't consider these to be minimalist shoes. I would consider the Hoka OneOne to be more minimalist this these shoes. Why?

Personally, I find the heel drop is the most important factor for me. Any heal rise over 2-4mm I feel an extreme amount of pain when I wear them.

Here is my list of minimalist criteria:

1.) Zero Drop.

2.) Wide Toe Box or Individual Toe Pockets.

3.) Flexibility.

4.) Weight.

5.) Ground feel.

I tend to care about it in that order as well. If the shoe is not Zero Drop or extremely close to it... I can't consider it minimalist. That is my main factor for differentiating "normal" shoes from minimalist shoes.

The Hoka OneOne has less of a heal rise then these Voltage. So even though the Hokas have less ground feel I would consider it more minimalist then the Voltage.

Personally, I would not even try these on. I know they would hurt my back after a short time wearing them. I would rather go with the Skeletoes 1.0 or 2.0 over the Voltage. Simply because of the zero drop. I wish they would have designed this the exact same way, but just made it level from heel to toe. Even though it had a stack height of 14mm, I will still be interested.

04/05/12 @ 19:20
Comment from: A C C [Visitor]
A C C

I have 5 toes, not 4 ergo Skeletoes aren't for me.

VFFs have been successful in abetting my pinky's revolution against the other toes.

In all seriousness though, Skeletoes have gotten better compared to their first ultra-stiff iteration. Cushioning isn't a big deal but it's OUTSOLE cushioning meaning it can't be removed. Also, they aren't zero drop. If you shaved off the heel so that it is 12.5mm stack throughout then maybe they have a contender. 12mm drop is way too much.

Heck, if you shaved off the entire outsole to about 10mm you'd have a half decent offering, although you'd need lugs on the outsole so that it isn't slippery (foam on anything slick makes you fall).

04/05/12 @ 21:09
Comment from: admin [Member]  

@Robert,

Interesting comparison to the Hoka OneOne, but I'm not sure it makes sense to 1) even consider the Skele-toes Voltage as minimalist 2) consider the Hoka One One as minimalist -- neither are minimalist in my opinion. The H11s are incredibly cushioned; how can a huge stack height be considered minimal? Are crocs minimalist-ish because they have a sizeable toe box and are lightweight?

And while this brings up a whole nother discussion, which is the spectrum of "how barefoot is such-and-such shoe?" I think to fall in the minimalist category, you have to sorta satisfy all the criteria to some extent and not completely whiff on one of them. I'd say the Voltage completely whiffs on the heel-to-toe differential; the H11s completely whiff on ground feel/cushioning.

@John,

I think a good analogy here is toe socks vs. regular socks. Regular socks are pretty stretchy, but they still tend to cramp your toes into a small space, even though your toes can push back and expand that space (if you want them to). Toe socks don't have this problem. To me, that's a big difference.

04/05/12 @ 21:30
Comment from: Matthew Goh [Visitor]
Matthew Goh

Really? Really, really?

04/05/12 @ 21:31
Comment from: robert [Member]  

@Justin

I think you are right. You can't really call them minimalist. They still tend to get grouped with minimalist shoes unfortunately. Fila even uses the word minimal on the shoe packaging.

It really opens up a much broader discussion of what is a minimalist shoe. I think if you ask 10 poeple you will probably get 10 different answers.

Maybe there should be a minimal-ish category. Not really minimal but has some properties of minimalist shoes. The Voltage and Hoka would fall more in to a minimal-ish category. I can think of several more that would fit in to a minimal-ish shoes category.

I do think the Voltage would be a better option then the Niki Free line. I would consider these shoes to be an excellent option for someone who is afraid of the transition.

04/05/12 @ 23:04
Comment from: Kissel [Visitor]
Kissel

There's a Skeletoes billboard near my house that says "Toe-tally original". Yeah right...

Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it one.

04/06/12 @ 10:26
Comment from: Jay [Visitor]
Jay

I'd like to see a review of the new Nike Free 3.0 (v4) these "look" really low. I think they have a 4mm drop. I really want to want a pair. ;)

Check out they way they're marketing the 3.0 rolled into a ball.
http://www.nike.com/runningfeatures/static/features/

04/06/12 @ 15:26
Comment from: pit [Visitor]
pit

what's next? HIGH-HEELS with toe pockets??
i think lady gaga will be more than willing to promote them....
imagine the morning after:
there's minimalist shoes thrown all over
the place and gaga screams:
"noooo! these are not minimalist shoes!
no zero drop, huge sole, and man, they are wayyy too bulky!"

04/07/12 @ 16:29
Comment from: Melissa [Visitor]
Melissa

Ohgods I feel like a traitor. My mother bought me a pair because I have a pair of Vibrams and she saw them in my fav color. Although numerous things bug me like the arch support, two toes squished into one pocket, and the heel drop, it's still better than my sneakers which I've been wearing when my aqua KSOs wouldn't fit.
For some reason I thought the ride would be more "plush". It didn't feel as squishy as I thought.
And of course, when I mentioned the arch support and padding, she was proud of herself for finding such a good toe shoe. Lol!
I'll keep them just to not break it to her. Besides a tag fell off. It'll be a good replacement for my sneakers.

04/12/12 @ 16:05
Comment from: Luis Boström [Visitor]
Luis Boström

I have been walking, running and working out in fivefingers and zemgear for over 1 year now and dont have other shoes. I do a lot och parkour and non of the fivefingers and zemgear are good for that. I found the Fila voltage in my city and tried them on and it was a mixed feeling. But i think i will get a pair for just parkour. In parkour i need a little thicker sole.
But all the other time is always fivefinger 24/7

04/25/12 @ 02:37
Comment from: david [Visitor]
david

I bought a pair of these at the Finish Line at our local mall a couple of days ago. Yeah, they're on sale.

I used to do a lot of distance running, but screwed up some disks in my back and neck, so I had to stop. One of my friends told me he'd tried this barefoot gig and he was able to return to running, which got my interest since I haven't been able to get the intensity of exercise I need since I quit.

I tried the forefoot strike with a pair of NB trainers I have, and it was hard to do because they aren't designed for that, so I grabbed these thinking that they'd do for a kind of transition to less obnoxiously heavy running shoes, and the lower impact forefoot strike.

Wore them last night just walking around, and they are VERY comfortable for that, at least, so I'll be keeping them and trying out running and hiking later on this week. I think.

04/25/12 @ 14:39
Comment from: kevin [Visitor]
kevin

I've worn through five pairs of vibrams. I experimented by gluing old shoe soles to worn-out vibrams to give me some protection from rocks during night runs. I might try the four-toes shoes but would wait for cheap chinese knockoffs to become available before investing in brand names. I'm guessing four-toes would lead to blisters from #4 and #5 rubbing which is why I'd want to try knockoffs first.

kevin

04/26/12 @ 11:58
Comment from: Allen [Visitor]
Allen

--For starters I'm VERY green to the minimalist shoe movement--
I tried these on at a Dick's Sporting Goods this past weekend, and I actually like them a lot. They felt pretty comfortable to walk around in and also seemed like they would breathe pretty well. I did notice, what I would call, a large bubble in the arch area, it threw me off a bit (mildly irritating) because it felt so prominent. I do plan to pick up a pair of Vibram KSOs in the very near future, but for my first toe-shoe purchase, I think these would be great for walking in :)

06/18/12 @ 10:47
Comment from: Kelly [Visitor]
Kelly

Voltage is my first pair of toe shoes, and I love them. I'd been wanting to try VFFs but there were 2 major factors against them:
1. Money. I didn't want to spend a lot of cash on something I wasn't sure I'd like.
2. My job requires me to go into some places, like mechanical rooms, where I would feel very uncomfortable with a thin sole. I don't need steel-toed shoes for what I do but I do need something with a decent sole thickness in case I accidentally step on something.
The Voltage gives me the sole thickness I need while allowing me to try out this toe shoe thing. They're the most comfortable shoes I own. I can walk for hours in them with no soreness and they're the only shoes that don't aggravate a minor foot injury that's been annoying me for months now. I really like the aesthetics too.
I think they're a great shoe for someone transitioning to a more minimalist shoe or for someone who needs a thicker sole for whatever reason. I can't comment on running since I don't, but I know they're wonderful for walking.
Because of my good experience with these shoes, I'll probably buy a more minimalist shoe for when I'm not at work. For work, I'll keep wearing my Voltages whenever I'm not required to wear steel toes.

06/26/12 @ 19:22
Comment from: Jennifer [Visitor]
Jennifer

I like the streamlined look in the picture on the grass. But correct me if I am wrong...don't most people have 5 toes? Is there an interior separation of the "ring" toe and the pinky toe?

07/15/12 @ 08:58
Comment from: alvinj88 [Visitor]
alvinj88

I love mine..until you run more than 3miles on it..your big toe start sliding and too much arch support that it makes you supinate..I got mine from Kohls and it's called the Fila Leap. my other shoes don't make me supinate..only the fila leap. and I only ran with them for like 5-6 days total

07/24/12 @ 16:21
Comment from: donlfranklin [Visitor]  
donlfranklin

I just love them shoe they are incredible

09/04/12 @ 17:42
Comment from: matt [Visitor]
matt

I ran 12km in them and for once no sore feet i have tried many different shoes on the market, And can honestly say that the skeletoes are amazing i bought 2 pairs, both the skeletoes amp and the voltage. All in all i would say that you should not diss them before trying them.

01/15/13 @ 04:19
Comment from: MaximilianKohler [Visitor]  
MaximilianKohler

Anyone know what the difference between the amps and the voltage is? I can't find it anywhere.

03/27/13 @ 03:39