Comment from: PB Junkie [Visitor]
PB Junkie

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11/09/11 @ 16:25
Comment from: Jeepman [Visitor]
Jeepman

This is what the New Balance Minimus Trail should have been from day one.

11/09/11 @ 20:24
Comment from: anonymous [Visitor]
anonymous

Do you reckon that they're too heavy? Or is their weight fairly unnoticeable?

11/10/11 @ 04:16
Comment from: tim [Member]  

The weight (and especially having a bit more structure around your foot) is a bit more noticeable if you are accustomed to spending most of your time in VFFs. If not, I'd say it is quite comparable to any other trail/running shoe.

11/10/11 @ 21:34
Comment from: Aaron [Visitor]  
Aaron

I don't understand why people keep saying that the Vivobarefoot shoes have a wide toebox. I have tried them and I have not found them to be very wide in the toebox. They are about average width actually. In the latest edition of Running Times, a 3D scan of the shoes with Shoefitter only gave them a 1.7 (higher number = more width) for width. The Pearl Izumi syncroFuel Trail II got a 2.0, and the Bikilas got and 11.1, so I don't see how anyone can say these shoes have a roomy toebox.

11/10/11 @ 22:02
Comment from: Jason [Visitor]
Jason

I wasn't too impressed with the rubber compound. After only one run on some fairly technical trails, some of it actual rock face, a few of the lugs are chipped and others cracked. I'm taking mine back out of fear they won't hold up for more than a year. The toe spring can be annoying if you choose to wear them around town, and there is a stitch or something in that sock liner on the left shoe that chews the top of my foot up. I think overall, tho, they're a good option, but not tough enough for REAL trails.

11/10/11 @ 23:49
Comment from: rasmus sloth pedersen [Visitor]
rasmus sloth pedersen

Not trying to be a know-it-all, but I couldn't help but noticing that you've tied a faulty tie on the shoes - this might be the cause of them coming loose...? (What you did what the "granny-knot", not the reef-knot, which is the one that'll usually hold).
Otherwise thanks for the always thorough and awesome shoe reviews!

11/12/11 @ 12:09
Comment from: Conor [Visitor]
Conor

Aaron: Did you try Evos or Neos? Neos are much roomier in the toebox than the Evos first iteration. I find my Neos to b MUCH roomier, and it definitely was an adjustment to go from Bikilas to the roomy Neo. I imagine the Neo trail would be very close to my Neo in terms of "toe room".

For some applications, I definitely prefer my Neos to Bikila. I would rather run in the Neos on a trail, and these Neo Trails sound fantastic.

Bikila is still my go to for speed training or long road runs, the weight of the Neo makes a difference here.

11/12/11 @ 19:43
Comment from: Brett [Visitor]  
Brett

If they were the same price, would you pick the Neo Trails or the New Balance MT20/Trail?

11/13/11 @ 23:56
Comment from: tim [Member]  

@Brett--the Neo Trails and the Minimus Trails are quite different. I like the Minimus Trails for road running and casual wear as they have less of a heel drop than their Minimus Road equivalents. The Neo Trails have a much more aggressive tread and would probably fair better for actual trail running. Hope that helps!

11/14/11 @ 09:27
Comment from: JoAnna Brand [Visitor]
JoAnna Brand

How do they compare sizing-wise with the NB Minimus Trail? If I wear a 9 in the Minimus, should I order a 9 in the Neo Trails?

11/14/11 @ 13:28
Comment from: tim [Member]  

@JoAnna--For me, in the Minimus Trails, I'm an 11US/45EU and in the Neo Trails I'm a 44EU.

11/14/11 @ 15:10
Comment from: Brett [Visitor]  
Brett

Sounds good. I guess I also have the Trail Glove as a consideration. I don't do much serious running right now, but I'm on my feet a lot. I'd like something fairly well-rounded that's comfortable all day.

11/14/11 @ 16:13
Comment from: Tash [Visitor]
Tash

I have vivo aquas that i could happily wear all day.

12/22/11 @ 10:06
Comment from: Andy [Visitor]
Andy

Tim,

Do you (or anyone else) know how the width of the Neo Airmesh compares to the Neo Trail? I have very wide feet. Your review and some of the comments seem to indicate that the Neo Trail is very wide and generous.

I have no local Vivo retailers, so I hate to order them unless I'm sure they'll be in the E - EE range.

Thanks!

03/12/12 @ 17:39
Comment from: Seret [Visitor]
Seret

Great review. I bought my VIVOBAREFOOT Neo Trails based on this review and ran the Chuckanut 50K yesterday in wet, cold, MUDDY very technical trail conditions. I couldn't be happier. Around mile 25 my feet were wet because of all the mud and water we had to run through, but today - day after - my feet feel great and absolutely NO blisters. Wore Ininji cool max performance socks with them. Thanks again!

03/18/12 @ 21:41
Comment from: mark [Visitor]
mark

I have been running with the Evos for about a year. The Evos have a more natural feel when running. I really like them for road running. I have a harder time walking in them because I cannot seem to break my heel striking when I walk.

I have the Merrell trail glove that I use for both trail running and plyometric exercises like Beach Body Insanity. They feel better on my feet for walking.

I really want to give the Neo Trail a run for the money!

04/04/12 @ 15:04
Comment from: Stephanie A [Visitor]  
Stephanie A

I bought the Neo Trails about 2 months ago based on this review and I have to say I am generally pleased with them. I normally wear Sprints for gym time and Bikilas for road running. Running in toe shoes though, on rocky colorado trails can have you throwing out swear words here and there. I needed a break from toe shoes anyway. I generally wear the Neo Trails running on the local trails (Cheyenne Mountain and the Barr trail on Pikes Peak, Iron horse Trail on Fort Carson)which are mostly rocks and loose dirt. The Neo Trails have great, let me rephrase that, AMAZING traction and great ground feel. I find that that the insole really makes no difference whatsoever. I put them to my ultimate test wearing them during my first ever race: the Spartan Race Military Sprint on Fort Carson, CO. It was fairly warm out that day, with temperatures ranging from the low to mid 80's. In Colorado weather, these shoes are definitely OK for the summer, in my opinion. It's so dry up at this altitude that any part of your body that sweats will dry up momentarily. Before I hit the mud pits, my feet were pretty cool and breezy. My only issues with them are 1) The laces are RIDICULOUSLY long, I wear a EU 35/US 5 womens and I have to triple knot the laces. They came undone to the first knot by mile 2 but held up throughout the race. (A lot of shod runners lost their shoes) 2) The hydrophobic mesh definitely holds water in...I was sloshing around after all the trenches and mud pits, it felt a little heavy. 3) It is not impervious to cactus needles. That has a lot more to do with the terrain in CO and me not exactly scrutinizing every single inch of the terrain, but it still hurts like a #*%(#$&%! Other than those I love the Neo Trails, thanks Tim for your review!

05/08/12 @ 14:57
Comment from: Erik [Visitor]  
Erik

So can anyone compare these or the other Vivo's (breathe i believe?) with the NB 110's or MT10's? Specifically protection, padding, sizing, etc.

I like my 110's but they hurt my right foot a bit and slip on my heel. The MT10's are a bit rough on long rocky runs. Thinking either some of these Vivo's or the Altra Lone peaks

07/19/12 @ 21:54
Comment from: Leslie [Visitor]
Leslie

Glad to see the review included the Tough Mudder. I've been running in these shoes since last fall (purchased to go into fall/winter running season after using Pace Gloves in summer). I have found these shoes to be very comfortable and, for someone with huge bunyons on both feet, the toebox seems extremely generous to me. I recently discovered a permanent obstacle course where I live in VT (if you are anywhere near New England, check them out!! www.shalehilladventure.com) and these shoes perform amazingly well on very muddy - CRAZY obstacles! Love them and highly recommend.

07/28/13 @ 22:01
Comment from: speedyk [Visitor]
speedyk

The way to keep shoes tied outdoors is to ties a square, or reef knot, then leave maybe 4" of lace and cut the rest off and burn/seal the end. They will stay laced, they can be unlaced with an upward flip of one end.

This only works with firm round-section laces. I usually replace whatever laces come with the shoes with reflective tent line 2.5 - 3mm works well in most eyelets. It lasts a long time and stays tied when reef-knotted.

10/05/13 @ 19:07
Comment from: Adam [Visitor]
Adam

It's hard to tell from the picture, but I think you're tying your shoes wrong, which makes a HUGE difference in how well your shoes stay tied (regardless of the type of laces). This site explains it pretty well. http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/grannyknot.htm
(There's also a TED talks video, but it's not as good). http://www.ted.com/talks/terry_moore_how_to_tie_your_shoes.html

11/19/13 @ 16:38