Comment from: Jen [Visitor]
Jen

Would all leather toes made the Trek more waterproof?

09/11/09 @ 11:31
Comment from: [Member]

It seems that they would. I've been thinking about this -- why not all leather toes? And though I have no insight or information as to the design iterations that Vibram went through to create the Trek, my thought is that full leather toes would make it so that water that inevitably gets inside the Treks would not be able to escape (except up the heel).

Don't know if that is why they went this route -- just speculation.

09/11/09 @ 11:34
Comment from: Jen [Visitor]
Jen

Couldn't water escape from the seams? Short of stepping in a creek or big puddle, with all leather toes, water really couldn't get in except through the top or seams if you're standing still long enough, right?

Just a thought. I think all leather toes would make the Trek almost perfect.

09/11/09 @ 11:42
Comment from: Jen [Visitor]
Jen

Oh did the leather stay buttery after drying? Was there any hardening or stiffness because of water exposure?

09/11/09 @ 11:44
Comment from: [Member]

The little that gets out of the seams is very little -- so on the one hand, why would a lot of water get in (forging a creek perhaps?)? On the other hand, it would have a very hard time getting out once it was in.

As for hardening - none! Of course, I'd expect it to be ok after just one soaking! A lot more testing will be required!

09/11/09 @ 11:55
Comment from: Dan [Visitor]  
Dan

Great write up Justin. From the sounds of it, when my current KSOs wear out, I'll be upgrading to Treks. Though, I have to say, it'll be for the leather rather than the tread. I like the sounds of the Mocs, but it doesn't sound like they are as rugged as the KSOs. A design that marries the 'roo leather with the simple sole of the KSOs would be perfect. Guess I need to figure out how to make suggestions to Vibram. :)

09/11/09 @ 11:58
Comment from: Bill C [Visitor]  
Bill C

Hey Justin ... Love the site ... 2 questions

1. Any idea when the Treks will be available at retail shops like REI or on VFF's website (not sure what inside scoop you have :)?

2. From the video it sounds like a KSO size will match the sizing of the Trek ... after a few days do you still feel that way?

Thanks!
Bill

09/16/09 @ 19:35
Comment from: mary ivey [Visitor]  
mary ivey

Do you have any idea if the treks will be made for women as well, and when they would be available?

10/07/09 @ 13:56
Comment from: [Member]

I think Vibram had announced these would be up on their website in October (but as of today, they aren't there yet). As for REI, I haven't heard (that I recall) when they'll be carrying them.

@mary,

This will probably answer your question in depth (in short, no KSO Treks for women at this time):

https://birthdayshoes.com/why-isn-t-vibram-making-a-women-s-fivefingers-kso-trek

10/07/09 @ 14:11
Comment from: Pete [Visitor]
Pete

I've recently become interested in the idea of "barefoot shoes" and would love to check out a pair of KSOs or Treks but not sure which I'd prefer. I think the Treks look a little nicer and more durable than the KSOs, but I live in Australia and we're coming up to Summer so breathability and coolness is an important factor for me. How do the different models compare from this aspect? Do you find that the water-resistant nature of the leather on the Treks keeps sweat stuck in there?

Thanks for your thoughts. =)

11/23/09 @ 17:45
Comment from: [Member]

@Pete,

I find the water resistance of the leather to be separate from their breathability as they seem to breath exceptionally well -- better than the normal nylon synthetic you get with regular KSOs.

11/23/09 @ 17:51
Comment from: Toby [Visitor]
Toby

I'm really keen to hear more about how much you feel stones and rocks through these soles over the regular soled VFFs - I've found that my feet can't not get bruised running over rocks so am wondering if these will cut it or I'll need to get some Adizeros or similar to handle the trails with long sections of sharp rocks.

Also - would be gret to see these soles on the classic upper - I've never had problems with the open desig - no bumps or scratches...

12/21/09 @ 02:38
Comment from: Rohith [Visitor]
Rohith

I would think that Vibram didn't use all leather toes because a complete covering of leather would separate the toes too much...or at least more than normal. That is the only explanation that makes sense to me.

What do you guys think?

01/25/10 @ 23:53
Comment from: [Member]

@Rohith,

I think the word I got was that they didn't use leather on the sides b/c it would have been too "tight" on the toes -- the leather not stretching much at all. They want the toes to have some give so they went with stretchy material.

Actually, as compared to my Mocs (or Flows), the Trek toes are more comfortable in my opinion. I don't really like having stuff glued onto my toes though -- and VFFs are generally big enough in the pockets not to be comfy.

01/26/10 @ 08:54
Comment from: Dave [Visitor]
Dave

Have you done any long runs in the KSO Treks or KSO's? Like over 12 miles? Hoping to use these on long trail runs, so it would be great hear how they hold up.

02/04/10 @ 10:56
Comment from: richie [Visitor]
richie

i did a three mile trail run for the first time in the kso. It was a difficult mountain bike trail. They performed well. The stones did a number on my feet. I think running form and stronger feet should help improve the next run. I've logged about 200 miles in this pair. I love them for running on the side of the road. They give you more feedback. Its like tasting for the first time. It takes time to strengthen your ankles, and my pinky toe gets sore. Buts its a small price to pay to not have any of the running injuries that you get from normal shoes. Overall, I highly recommend them, and they are awesome for hopping boulders.

05/21/10 @ 00:18
Comment from: bob [Visitor]
bob

Been trail running in the Treksports for about 3 months now. Lots of trail and bush-wacking, prefer it over the conventional shoes I used to run in. However, stubbing a toe in the the five-fingers is misrable!

09/03/11 @ 20:07
Comment from: Loren [Visitor]  
Loren

I just got a pair of these off of eBay today and am just wearing them around and so far I really like them...
Do you have anymore links to these shoes here on the site? I would like to see if you have a more recent review!
Thanks in advance

09/26/12 @ 18:16


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