Comment from: hal [Visitor]  

More like 465 pounds. Red plates are 55#, Blue are 45#, the hex metal ones are #45, and the last one (small hex) looks like either a 10# plate. Add a 45# bar, and you got 465. Boosh.

08/06/13 @ 15:26
Comment from: [Member]


Take a look at the original photo (here)--the red plate on the floor says "45."

08/06/13 @ 15:32
Comment from: hal [Visitor]

Using non-standard plate colors: Bad form.

Much easier to believe that he's lifting that kind of weight with those chicken legs, then. 465 was just about incredible. :)

08/06/13 @ 17:25
Comment from: Tom [Visitor]  

Re 3 hours a day in the gym: he could have been doing phases and split up the recommended daily 3 hours into 2 or 3 sessions in order to cover both cardio and weights every day. Just saying... :)

08/06/13 @ 17:43
Comment from: John Marker [Visitor]
John Marker

You did see that the article mention what Jackman eats for every single meal of the day, didn't you?

08/06/13 @ 19:24
Comment from: [Member]


What's your point? The meals are in line with matching the macros so long as they fall within the eating window.

08/06/13 @ 19:54
Comment from: John Marker [Visitor]
John Marker

You should reread it. The mealplan sure isn't setup for someone eating only six hours a day.

Looks at the mentions of time of day in this:

oats and berries for breakfast, protein smoothies after the first workout of the day, turkey and veggie stir fry for a high-protein snack, chicken breast with snap peas and asparagus for lunch, walnut trail mix for mid-afternoon snack, tuna steak with broccoli and cauliflower for dinner, and another protein smoothie before bedtime

08/06/13 @ 23:01
Comment from: John [Visitor]

I do ALL of my weight workouts in FiveFingers (KomodoSport LS and Seeya). Deadlifts feel more natural when the foot is in full contact with the floor, in fact I pulled 300# the other day in my Komodos after doing 5X275#.

08/07/13 @ 01:27
Comment from: [Member]

@John M

Went a step further and scoured the web for more info. Sadly, it's very hard to track down, but I was able to find in the video at the Yahoo! Movies article the quote from The Rock's advice. Whoever made the transcript got Jackman's quote wrong. He didn't say "six hours in calories" — he said "6,000 calories." Pretty huge difference.

Alas, maybe Jackman DOESN'T follow LeanGains. I found elsewhere that he only did "half" of what The Rock prescribed, but half of what? Half the training? Half the calories? Half in some other way (most likely)?

Supposedly Jackman talked about his diet on Howard Stern in the last couple months (May 30 was when I saw the tweet). Here's the reference:

John Cowell ‏@jfcowell 30 May
@Martinberkhan getting a semi-mention on the @HowardStern show when discussing Hugh Jackman's diet. #16/8

I'm going to try to find that again.

Note that the 6K calories/day definitely doesn't square with the meal plan described in the article. Separately, searches for the written-up meal plan seem to point to an X-men Origins DVD extra interview. Note that Origins was a 2009 flick. Actually, I found a "meal plan" via this query (see the PDF) that looks like what Deming wrote up in the article. That PDF was from Jan 2013, which doesn't say much for the source. Ugh.

As you look down the rabbit hole and try to find more info on what Jackman REALLY did for The Wolverine, it seems you just find a pile of misinformation and mashed-up facts stuck together from various sources. And here I go and add to the echo chamber ...

Anyone who can find some definitive info here ... well I'm all ears. If only Jackman read BirthdayShoes!

08/07/13 @ 11:13
Comment from: [Member]

@John M,

Note I've updated the post to be (hopefully) much more accurate. Thanks for the critical eye and feedback. Ultimately, all my searching for obscure quotes and all I needed to do was search for ["hugh jackman" fasting] — that led me to his discussion of 16-8 fasting and an unfortunate citation (perhaps by Men's Fitness, it's not clear if Jackman was quoted on this reference) to The 8-Hour Diet, a Dec. 2012 book on IF.

Anyway, also updated the article to put in a little realism about the journey to being strong and lean.

Thanks again!

08/07/13 @ 12:35
Comment from: ricardoromell [Visitor]

Im sad vibram u guys never covered me lifting 350+ pounds in 2010 and i was only 24 then ... in a pair of worn out out KSO's ... in all seriousness that mans in great shape for 40 + males. I console my self saying hes too skinny . But u gotta give him props. Lastly no straps that takes some serious grip strength... to bad i quit lifting and got to running and home workouts ...

08/07/13 @ 14:40
Comment from: John [Visitor]

"Jackman has now played as Marvel's Wolverine in three X-Men movies, two Wolverine movies, and is also in an upcoming new X-men movie. "

Technically he was Wolverine in all 4 X-Men movies so far.

08/07/13 @ 15:53
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08/07/13 @ 19:32
Comment from: David [Visitor]

Keep in mind how effective steroids and testosterone are. ;) There is NO WAY Martin Berkhan got to the size he is in those pictures without steroids.

I'm not recommending taking steroids or testosterone. Not at all. But different people have different body types, and MOST people are not going to get huge like Martin. I'd even question whether Jackman is on the juice. Many movie stars obviously get on and off for different roles.

With that said, there is nothing like compound lifting, and it seems that IF also works very well, especially if you're eating as natural as possible...minimizing processed food + high in lean protein.

08/08/13 @ 07:00
Comment from: [Member]


Don't be so quick to judge. To my knowledge having read virtually everything Martin's written and having communicated with him on various occasions, he's natural. Mind that he's incredibly, incredibly lean but weighs in the lower 190s and is over 6' tall (maybe 6'2"? I can't remember). I seem to recall that there's a way to approximate your optimal, natural weight for your height if you were in peak condition and Martin's right about at the right spot.

More than anything, Martin is a no BS kind of person and he's made fairly disparaging comments about steroid use IIRC (and maybe I don't) which lead me to believe he's not (nor has he been) a user.

Can't say for sure. Maybe he'll chime in.

08/08/13 @ 12:37
Comment from: David [Visitor]


Ok, I shouldn't say that Martin couldn't be an extremely rare anomaly. Anything is possible, but probability is something else.

I was a power lifter in high school. At 150lbs I could dead lift a bit over 350lbs. Then again, I was 18 years old. I'm having trouble getting back to that now! I was also a personal training for about 10 years.

It is exceedingly rare for someone to be able to look like Martin without taking steroids. I shouldn't say it's impossible, but it's very close to impossible, in my experience.

And, I've known two guys who were two of the strongest opponents of steroid use, for most of the last 20 years, only to have recently admitted to have been taking them for the same period. Think of Lance Armstrong. It's VERY common.

Anyway, I shouldn't generalize to Martin, as I know nothing whatsoever about him. So, I didn't mean that as a necessary slight against him, or what he is promoting.

08/08/13 @ 13:38
Comment from: [Member]


You make great points and ultimately I really do not know the answer. I can't vouch for the veracity of Martin not using steroids. That said, I'm not sure why Berkhan wouldn't be clear on his previous use, if any.

It's somewhat of a moot point. Being extremely lean does not require steroids, which is the main subject here (and proven out via others who have used the LeanGains approach -- present company included).

08/08/13 @ 13:43
Comment from: Donna Smith [Visitor]
Donna Smith

He's got my vote .....he's ah hotie

08/08/13 @ 15:14
Comment from: David [Visitor]

No doubt...on the being extremely lean. And, again, I'm not against either IF or compound lifts.

My point was just that for an average guy to look like Hugh Jackman or Martin (muscle size)'s going to be very difficult without some chemical help.

That was my point about myself dead lifting 350+ at 150lbs. Right now I'm 38 years old and just under 150lbs. I'm at about 315 for a single dead lift. And I look nothing like Hugh Jackman, lol.

Just like women shouldn't think they have to look like the women in fashion magazines, etc., I think it's unrealistic for the average guy to think he's going to look jacked up like Martin or Hugh Jackman in those Wolverine pictures...possible...but unlikely.

08/08/13 @ 16:25
Comment from: Beachbum1701 [Visitor]

Also noticed something from last year's 'Prometheus.' In the scene where Noomi Rapace (after her nasty self-C-section) encounters Guy Pearce as the presumed dead Peter Weyland being cleaned up after coming out of hypersleep, look closely at Michael Fassbender's (David the robot) feet. He, the actress playing Dr Ford and the 'guard standing close by are wearing black VFF KSOs. There's one good shot where you can even see the 'Vibram' logo on the side. Probably would've missed it had I not been watching on my monolithic flat screen.

Just FYI...

08/11/13 @ 12:20
Comment from: Mitch [Visitor]

Martins muscle size is mostly an illusion as he is extremely lean. In clothes he barely looks like he lifts. Check his deadlift videos on youtube. He lacks the thickness of a steroid user. IMO he is definitely not on steroids. Another telltale sign js his lack of traps, these are the first thing to 'pop' on a steroid user.

08/13/13 @ 09:38
Comment from: Mitch [Visitor]

Here is a pic from Berkhans Twitter. Looks like a normal athletic guy in very good shape. Not an aas abuser.

08/13/13 @ 09:43
Comment from: Jan Madsen [Visitor]
Jan Madsen

Legs Miserables.

08/14/13 @ 10:37
Comment from: Wayland [Visitor]


Martin is natural. He's genetically gifted at the very least with good bone structure and symmetry. He used to model.

He also works his butt off for his body and condition based on his knowledge of nutrition and exercise.

The same goes for Hugh Jackman.

I'm natural and have been asked before if I've used steroids and I almost laughed in the person's face. I've seen what a user looks like and I don't have that look.

I generally do sets with your max DL (or more). I'm 5'10" and stay around 200 lbs unless I'm trying to lean out. I don't think I'm genetically gifted; I do work hard though.

Martin's estimation for muscular potential is height in centimeters minus 100 = your weight in kilograms.

If I were competing on-stage, my muscular potential with good genetics would put me at ~172 lbs. Low BF% shows more muscle which leads to a look that appears bigger than what the weight would reveal.

Don't accuse people of steroid use when they may be working harder than you with an advantage via their genetics.

08/14/13 @ 22:35
Comment from: Monique [Visitor]

My brother told me that "wormy veins" was a sign of steroids use. I would hate to think that Hugh Jackman is cheating with that new "Steroid Alternative" that's out there to get that beautiful body of his.

04/12/14 @ 00:22
Comment from: myname [Visitor]  

The reason chemicals are used so often in Hollywood is the time factor. They usually simply don't have the time between movie shoots to transform their body to a very different look naturally. Plus, most don't have the discipline to change their diet and work out hard enough to get there naturally. Most are so aesthetic driven they will do anything for a role including risking their health. They feel its worth it and are willing to take the risk rationalising that because they aren't using for years it won't have a long term effect. People in the health field know that things tend to accumulate. So whatever you do now you'll pay a price for later whether good or bad. Basically, only a complete moron would ever use chemicals. Or someone with very unbalanced values. Thinking people will never let other people's opinions compromise their health.

Re: Hugh Jackman. Look at his waist height. He has long legs, short torso. So this aids in his muscle growth. Plus he was obviously using.

Regarding genetics, the ideal muscular guy has a fast metabolism and larger than average bone structure coupled with a small waist. Usually when you have a larger bone structure you tend to have a slower metabolism. It would be fascinating to know why this occurs. Perhaps one of our genetics' mysteries. Look around a gym and you will see this time and time again. Thicker guys tend to pack on the fat far more easily. Also, when you're heavier, running isn't so much fun. Its just a lot more work. Of course there are other ways of doing cardio....but they tend not to do them. Its like we get into a rut. Skinny people live on the treadmill whereas they should do more strength work. Stocky people need to do way more cardio. We all need to realize our limitations and work on them relentlessly! In a gym we are also way more comfortable doing what we excel at. That may be the main reason above all. Other people's opinions of us can shape our workout. It shouldn't but its just human nature.

11/11/18 @ 10:57
Comment from: [Member]

Eh not so sure in this case. Doing the right training for 10 years is plenty long enough to grow naturally without chemicals. I've grown a lot of muscle in a year with no chemicals and just smart eating.

11/12/18 @ 07:30

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