Comment from: nathan [Visitor] Email · http://stapler.scroggles.com
I have gotten the comment that my black treks look like gorilla feet, which is funny and kind of true. Although i agree that they are the most dressy and least flashy VFFs. I LOVE THEM
01/12/10 @ 17:52
Comment from: jimmydot [Visitor] Email · http://jimmydotvff.tumblr.com/
Great update/review as always Justin! My 2 cents on the Treks. Last weekend i finally used to hike the Manitou Incline in Colorado (typically wear Flows), It was 40 at the base and below freezing at the top. Snow pack in places, mostly at the top. These VFFs surprised me. I knew they would have great traction, but thought i would have a slip here and there. i never slipped on the packed snow or on the icy spots. After about 45min i could feel the toes getting cold, at the top my toes were cold but not bad. On the decent my feet and toes warmed up. BTW I love leaving VFF footprints on the trails.
01/12/10 @ 17:53
Great review, Justin. I would like to add that the Treks are considerably warmer than the KSOs and make for good winter wear, either running or just kicking around. I've noticed that they don't pick up the funky smell as readily as the other VFFs, due in part to the leather upper and the increased wearing of Injinji socks during winter. I've washed mine a half dozen times (air dry only) without problems.
01/12/10 @ 18:24
Comment from: Mark [Visitor]
Thanks for the review. I still don't know if I would pay more for the Treks to give up any of the sensitivity that I get with the KSOs. It may not be a huge difference though, as you say, and would definitely like to feel more secure when jumping on a wet rock compared to my KSOs, which become much more slippery on wet objects. BTW, not to nitpick, but I think the term is "razor siping" (as opposed to "laser siping") as described by Vibram here: http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/products/products_KSO_m.cfm
01/13/10 @ 14:00
Comment from: Justin [Member] Email · http://justinowings.com
Great point Chad -- they definitely feel warmer than standard KSOs. May update the review to include that!

@Mark,

You are correct and I appreciate the nitpick. Not sure how I got lasers on the brain. Corrected thanks to you.
01/13/10 @ 14:05
Comment from: Grok [Visitor] · http://castlegrok.com/
Awesome! Finally got mine off backorder today!

http://twitpic.com/y4kh3
01/14/10 @ 21:27
Comment from: Charley [Visitor] Email
I literally fell upon these while looking for a calculator for big fingers on line last week, after many hours of reaading and watching youtube videos i have decided to purchase a pair of VFF KSO Trek's. I purchased them from the Kayak Shed in Oregon and they are being shipped to New Brunswick Canada, on the East Coast!!

All I can say is I cant wait!!!!

Cheers!!
01/23/10 @ 21:27
Comment from: Adam [Visitor] Email · http://professionaladventurer.com
Wow, I had no idea there was a trek version (which I would have gotten) better suited to my life. KSO's are a bit slick for my haunts (Alaska and Big Island Hawaii) which have a LOT of mud. Many, just when I think I have the right shoes! When I went to VFF site in August to read and find a place to purchase, there was no mention of the "trek". Thanks for posting. Now I have to spend another $100!!
01/24/10 @ 15:24
Comment from: Greg [Visitor]
Great review. was just wondering how they would with water? Im right on the beach so if i was in the water how would they hold up and dry afterwards?
02/10/10 @ 13:43
Comment from: Justin [Member] Email · http://justinowings.com
They'd probably do fine but I would be marginally concerned that salt water might degrade the leather over time. I wonder if regular KSOs wouldn't be a better choice for that application:

http://birthdayshoes.com/index.php/review-of-vibram-five-fingers-kso-keep-stuff-out
02/10/10 @ 13:45
Comment from: JimmyDot [Visitor] · http://jimmydotvff.tumblr.com/
Greg and Justin, I can tell you they smell like dead fish the next day. I soaked them in 60%vinegar for a day and washed them. They were good as new (smell that is).
02/14/10 @ 21:43
Comment from: Ng Seow Kong [Visitor] Email
I have already owned a pair of trek. I am running the Marathon des Sables in early April this year.

The question is: for those who have run in desert conditions before, can KSO trek handle the rocky terrain on this kind of course?

02/18/10 @ 04:00
Comment from: Michael [Visitor]
I just picked up a pair of Black KSO's and love them! I tried on two other styles but came to the KSO and there was no turning back. The only thing I want now is another pair.
03/19/10 @ 21:27
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
i already own a pair of the kso and there is a place that is thinner on the right foot close to the toes.. is there patches or replacement warranty but the trek looks to be thicker on the bottom so maybe they might last longer.
04/01/10 @ 13:28
Comment from: Dennis [Visitor] Email
How do you think the KSO Treks would fare in a mud run?
04/05/10 @ 02:15
Comment from: chase [Visitor]
i have a pair of kso's but i am considering the treks, i just want some feed back on wich ones you like better
04/06/10 @ 12:44
Comment from: Justin [Member] Email · http://justinowings.com
I like the KSO Treks better for trail running and for nicer wear (they just look NICE). The KSOs are great for more ground feel/everyday casual wear. I'd probably go with KSOs for asphalt running over Treks, too, as they afford more ground feel. Even better, go with Sprints.

Also check the definitive guide to KSO Five Fingers.
04/06/10 @ 12:48
Comment from: Alejandro Miro [Visitor]
Hey Justin,

I've been looking into getting a pair of VFFs and seeing as how your detailed reviews and videos have helped quite a bit I figured I'd come to you to help in final decision making. Ok, so I, as a college student, don't have much to spend, so multiple models of VFFs are out of the question. If I had to purchase ONE pair of VFFs, would you recommend the Treks? I want the VFF model that is the most versatile as far as activities go (outdoorsy as well as casual out and about), the most durable, but still has that "barefoot" feel. I am worried that due to the thicker sole I would be compromising in this last area. Anywho I want to make a decision soon because I have the opportunity of getting the Treks for $100 instead of $125. What is your opinion?
04/16/10 @ 14:24
Comment from: Justin [Member] Email · http://justinowings.com
Alejandro,

It's a really tough call. Trek hands down wins out for:

- style
- durability
- traction on rough terrain

You definitely lose some of that barefoot feel though and for barefoot-feel comfort, I'd go with Classics (or even Sprints worn loosely). If your decision is between KSO and KSO Trek, I'd probably go Trek.

Sorry it's not more clearcut -- you ultimately can't go wrong though!
04/16/10 @ 14:41
Comment from: Nimalan Mahendran [Visitor]
Has anyone successfully bought these shoes off the vibramfivefingers.com website after April 5th?

I tried buying a pair on April 5th and saw their sign talking about "[increasing] our online transaction security". My card got declined - I checked with the card issuer and made sure all the details were okay. Then I tried a bunch more times and my card got declined each time. And then I found from the card issuer that they were posting charges on my card anyway! 13 charges, to be exact...!

I emailed them at orders@vibramfivefingers.com on April 5th and still haven't gotten a reply or even an acknowledgment of my email. I tried buying them again today (April 20th), but I have the exact same problem, so nothing has been fixed.

I'm using a US dollar VISA card from Canada, but I've made those kinds of purchases before, i.e. at Amazon.

Anyone else experiencing something similar?

Normally, I would have already decided not to give VFF a single cent of my money, but yea.. I need to find some other company that makes "barefoot running" shoes and support them instead.

I have to say though - this is the worst experience I have ever had with an online retailer, by far.
04/20/10 @ 16:22
Comment from: Kyle [Visitor]
Hey everyone, I gotta say I've been pumped for quite some time to buy a pair of vibrams. Everytime I go to purchase them I get a little nervous though, as I don't want to make the wrong decision. The treks are by far my top choice, but I was wondering if anyone could help me with the info/review for their ability in the water. I don't plan on diving in them, but I don't want to have to take them off if I cut/swim through a river/lake, if anyone can give some info it would help out extremely. Thanks.
05/16/10 @ 12:40
Comment from: kirsten hite [Visitor]
I'm excited to see that the women's models are now available! YAY!
My only issue is the kangaroo leather. Does anyone else feel guilty wearing it?! Maybe I'm a hippocrite, because cow leather doesn't bother me - I figure, there are enough cows being eaten that the leather is just a byproduct. But kangaroos? Are they being killed just to make my vibrams?
Maybe I'm just being a tree-hugger, but I really wish they would use a synthetic leather on these shoes!
07/02/10 @ 13:28
Comment from: Justin [Member] Email · http://justinowings.com
Kangaroo in Australia is analogous to cattle in the U.S. -- they actually kill kangaroos in Australia for the meat! Seriously.
07/02/10 @ 13:31
Comment from: Chad [Visitor]
I bought my KSO's after injuring my back doing SAR jumps in the san diego bay, and I can honestly say that they relieved a lot of the pain that I was feeling from compressing my spine at T-4,T-5, and T-6. I have since then logged a couple of hundred miles of hiking, running, and quite a few hours of crossfit/sealfit on them.

I've been wearing them on non-skid on the ship that i'm deployed on right now for the past 3 months, and they still look like brand new. So far they've explored california, hawaii, brunei, thailand, indonesia, malaysia, and singapore.

I can't wait to get back and buy a pair of trek's for hunting, hiking.

I guess the only "bad" thing that I have to say about my KSO's is that they make me want to act like a complete hooligan when I wear them. Climbing and jumping on top of everything I can find lol.
07/03/10 @ 02:37
Comment from: JC [Visitor] · http://www.calazan.com
Very nice detailed review!

I actually just finished hiking with my regular VFF KSOs and there were areas with a lot of rocks where I wish the rubber soles of the KSOs were a little thicker as I stepped on some that hurt a bit (especially when going downhill, I had to take it slowly).

I saw something about the Trek version before I bought my KSOs and thought about Treks as I was hiking and wondering whether this would give better protection for rocky terrains and your review confirmed it.

It looks I'll be getting a pair of Treks very soon as I'm planning on hiking almost every weekend! Thanks for sharing!

Chad, I agree, wearing these shoes are so much fun that it makes you want to just jump and climb on things (I was actually doing this earlier today whenever I see big rocks)!
07/11/10 @ 20:09
Comment from: Sam [Visitor]
I've been seriously considering buying these, but its the water issue that concerns me. I live in the Pacific Northwest and the trails here aren't exactly dry any time of the year but now. I want to be able to wear my VFF's year round, and can't decide whether the KSO or the KSO Trek would be a better decision for me. The trails I tend to be on aren't too difficult, but during the winter, there are some hills where the extra traction might be nice. At the same time, it would be more damp and muddy, making the KSO's slightly more desirable due to them being easier to clean and maintain.

Any thoughts/suggestions? I can't decide!
07/16/10 @ 06:41
Comment from: Timothy Finks [Visitor]
Too bad I didn't happen to see this two days ago when I ended up buying my KSO's from whole earth provisions. I did mention for the most rugged VFF from the clerk, but they didn't have any bigger sizes in the trek, which I thought was just the same as the KSO, but with leather material instead of the stretchy other).

Bought the KSO's, and played Disc Golf in a pretty rugged course. Ended up raining early on, everything was fine until a little jog on one of the transition trails and slipped on a log step. That hurt a lot. So I came online today to complain, but now I found out I didn't pick the right one. Looks like I'm potentially 80 bucks down the whole, with a pair of "shoes" that can't cut it for it's original purpose. Trying to think positive. I LOVE my KSO's...but the thought of treks instead keeps worming it's way into my head.
07/19/10 @ 15:20
Comment from: Mark S [Visitor]
Justin,
I'm debating between the KSO Treks and the new Bikilas. I have some KSOs and have used them for trail running and street running. I have hit some rocks/sticks on the trail, and bruised my foot. And my feet just seem to get tired after a mile or so on the streets.

I primarily run on the streets.

Which shoe has a thicker, more padded sole -- the Trek or the Bikila?

Which would you recommend for street running?

Thanks.

-- Mark
07/23/10 @ 17:17
Comment from: Julian [Visitor]
I'm looking to get my first fivefingers, and just can't decide between these or the regular KSOs. I like these because of the extra protection and leather exterior, but not sure if they are too thick soled to really give the barefoot experience..I live in a coldish climate and while do don't do any trekking, I am planning to start. I would mainly be wearing them around a city though (lots of broken glass..). I'm also wondering if injinji socks will fit alright in the treks at my size, or if I need to go a size up...
09/02/10 @ 13:58

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